2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

[Bulldog4life]

So he & Lewis Taylor want a combined $1,000,000 a year, or 10% of the salary cap spent on just them two....

*!*!*!*!ing dreaming!

Exactly what I thought.

[The Doctor]

I'd rather hit the draft than take in rejects from bottom feeding clubs like Carlton and Brisbane. Our success has come primarily through the draft and I don't want us to fall for the 'topping up' trap.

This is a good draft and I'd like us to go in with 4 picks and keep bringing in talented young guns.

[soupman]

I wouldn't mind having a look at Green

God no.

He's a limited and mediocre small forward with a complete inability to play anywhere else and an overinflated opinion of himself. If he was given a spot on our list ahead of anyone else currently on it I would be incredibly disappointed.

[GVGjr]

I'd rather hit the draft than take in rejects from bottom feeding clubs like Carlton and Brisbane. Our success has come primarily through the draft and I don't want us to fall for the 'topping up' trap.

This is a good draft and I'd like us to go in with 4 picks and keep bringing in talented young guns.

I think there needs to be a balance of drafting and trading to continue to improve the list. It's all well to say lets hit the draft but we almost certainly pick the best players regardless of the position they play which leads us to an unbalanced list or one where there are a few gaps.

To me looking at bringing in a player through free agency does not compromise the drafting of players. If we looked at a Richards it gives us a player with a bit of senior experience and one who has been in a good system for a few years. It then adds a bit of insurance that we won't have next season.

I'd look for 4 inclusions as well, 3 via the draft and 1 needs based player through free agency. It worked well with Hamling 2 years ago and can do so again.

[bornadog]

I'd rather hit the draft than take in rejects from bottom feeding clubs like Carlton and Brisbane. Our success has come primarily through the draft and I don't want us to fall for the 'topping up' trap.

This is a good draft and I'd like us to go in with 4 picks and keep bringing in talented young guns.

This^^^^

Have said that for years and we have basically followed that over the past 3 to 4, just bringing in the odd man here and there. The premiership team only had three players from other teams.

[Axe Man]

North have delisted Joel Tippett and Brad McKenzie. Any interest in Tippett for key defender depth, perhaps as a rookie?

[GVGjr]

This^^^^

Have said that for years and we have basically followed that over the past 3 to 4, just bringing in the odd man here and there. The premiership team only had three players from other teams.

What is the issue in bringing in players from other teams if they address gaps within your playing list? Hawks have used this successfully for years. So have other good sides.

We wanted Hurley to add to our existing KPD stocks but didn't get him and now lose Hamling with Adams serving notice so why wouldn't you look at some other options if there is minimum risk?

[Topdog]

What is the issue in bringing in players from other teams if they address gaps within your playing list? Hawks have used this successfully for years. So have other good sides.

We wanted Hurley to add to our existing KPD stocks but didn't get him and now lose Hamling with Adams serving notice so why wouldn't you look at some other options if there is minimum risk?

It just needs to be done correctly and thats what we have done recently. Signings like Hamling and Biggs cost us absolutely nothing, very different to the trades of Street and Koops for example.

[Mofra]

We wanted Hurley to add to our existing KPD stocks but didn't get him and now lose Hamling with Adams serving notice so why wouldn't you look at some other options if there is minimum risk?

It does cost a list spot which a few years ago we could afford, right now perhaps not given it's a premiership list with quite a bit of 25th-35th quality.

If we put Prudden on the rookie list and pick up O'Shea (decent KPD) that's fine, or rookie a mature state leaguer ruck, but I can't see too many other mature options that really provide anything we haven't already got.

[GVGjr]

It just needs to be done correctly and thats what we have done recently. Signings like Hamling and Biggs cost us absolutely nothing, very different to the trades of Street and Koops for example.

Exactly. I have no issues with debating the merits of any candidates but a blanket no seems counter productive.

[GVGjr]

It does cost a list spot which a few years ago we could afford, right now perhaps not given it's a premiership list with quite a bit of 25th-35th quality.

If we put Prudden on the rookie list and pick up O'Shea (decent KPD) that's fine, or rookie a mature state leaguer ruck, but I can't see too many other mature options that really provide anything we haven't already got.

Do we not have an issue with being a bit short on key position defenders or a support ruckman? Did we not lose some depth with the loss of Hamling, Stevens and Hrovat which of course we now have Cloke in the positive column?

I look at our playing list and see opportunities to improve and I don't buy that it's not required.

[bulldogtragic]

Exactly. I have no issues with debating the merits of any candidates but a blanket no seems counter productive.

A blanket no would have denied us Hammer & Biggs in the Grand Final. Both crucial in the win. I think the strategy should be to consider a mature player for the rookie list, and then allow form to dictate if they get elevated. With Wally out for the year, we can effectively get a Biggs/Hamling type on the rookie list but have access to them at AFEL level all year potentially. I think our rookie list strategy could be very interesting and be a strategic advantage if we use it right.

[bornadog]

Exactly. I have no issues with debating the merits of any candidates but a blanket no seems counter productive.

We currently have a very strong team. Unless we brought in a high profile star, I don't believe we need to get a ready made player this year. As Doc said, I would prefer to bolster our stocks for the future through the draft.

We can bring in a mature age rookie that can be upgraded, to help fill in as insurance, some one tall as we don't need mids.

[GVGjr]

We currently have a very strong team. Unless we brought in a high profile star, I don't believe we need to get a ready made player this year. As Doc said, I would prefer to bolster our stocks for the future through the draft.

We can bring in a mature age rookie that can be upgraded, to help fill in as insurance, some one tall as we don't need mids.

So to be clear in your opinion we don't need anyone to support the 2 ruckman we have and despite losing Hamling, missing out on Hurley, Adams putting us on notice plus Morris possibly in his last season in 2017 we can't even look at key defenders because of the strength of our senior playing list?

[1eyedog]

So to be clear in your opinion we don't need anyone to support the 2 ruckman we have and despite losing Hamling, missing out on Hurley, Adams putting us on notice plus Morris possibly in his last season in 2017 we can't even look at key defenders because of the strength of our senior playing list?

I think we definitely need a young developing ruck at Footscray. We are not going to bring in anyone decent (i.e. ready to go) as a third-string ruck. We also need to undertake a fairly robust due diligence for a key defender between now and next year's trade period. This is the critical gap in the list that needs filling if Adams wants out.

Outside of this I would think the next port of call would be an outsider who uses it well.

I would look at best available as opposed to a stop gap in every circumstance and I'm not sure we're on the same page re. Dunn and one of the Browns.