The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

[bulldogtragic]

Time stops for no one. Next off-season firms as a crucial year. So basic forward looking:

Retiring Candidates based on age (obviously form & fitness are more important than dob): Bob, Matty Boyd, Morris (3)

Candidates needing a strong year: Prudden, Honeychurch, Hamilton (3)

Trading Candidates: Adams, based on his request/suggestion/offer to be traded this year (1)

[Twodogs]

Who's out of contract at year's end? JJ would most ur gent I guess.

[Topdog]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

[KT31]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

Bit of work but around five or six players would be on year to year deals, Crameri should stick by us and hopefully a few will be extended prior to the season commencing.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

2017 is where our recruiting team is going to earn their keep. As Topdog points out there are a lot of important guys here, and hopefully the Hurley deal falling over, means we've got good 'walking around money' to re-sign everyone we wish to keep.

[comrade]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

Must signs are bolded.

Happy to wait and see on the older players. Hoping Dale pops up and becomes a must sign.

[Axe Man]

Must signs are bolded.

Happy to wait and see on the older players. Hoping Dale pops up and becomes a must sign.

Would you re-sign Webb if he has a poor season? I think he needs to step up in 2017 to be safe.

[GVGjr]

Would you re-sign Webb if he has a poor season? I think he needs to step up in 2017 to be safe.

Tend to agree although it's a harsh environment for a player who did well in his 1st year and got squeezed out of senior games in his 2nd year because the team was performing so well and he was given a new role.

[KT31]

Must signs are bolded.

Happy to wait and see on the older players. Hoping Dale pops up and becomes a must sign.

Highlighting was a great idea, wish I had thought of it.

If Smith has no major issues he would be on my priority list ahead of Webb.
JJ defiantly top priority and one would imagine a big pay rise.

[azabob]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

I think BT put together a similar list a week or so back also.

[westdog54]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

Going through 1 by 1:

Boyd: Will almost certainly retire.
Smith: Signed a 1 year deal to see how his knees hold up. Fair enough on club and player.
Morris: Will retire or a further 1 year deal, fitness and form depending.
Hamilton: Make or break year for him. Up to him to show he's worth it, not the other way around.
Redpath: Only does 1 year deals. His call.
Murphy: Form and fitness by years end.
Dunkley: Must retain.
Collins: Watch how he develops but I'd be inclined to sign him up for a further 2 to let him develop.
Adams: Will most likely ask for a trade West.
Williams: Must re-sign
Dale: Watch his development. Might attract some trade interest.
Webb: Might attract some interest. Rate him highly.
McLean: CANNOT afford to let him remain uncontracted at seasons end. Need to secure him.
Daniel: As above.
Honeychurch: Some work to do to retain his spot.
Roberts: With Adams likely gone by years end he's got an opportunity to prove his worth.
Picken: Would be stunned if he walks but there'll be interest aplenty.
JJ: Priority number 1 is getting him signed up for at least 3 years.
Crameri: Will be interesting to see how he returns. With Cloke at the club now he's more important than ever for our structure.

Its a long list but it ain't as bad as it looks.

[FrediKanoute]

Going through 1 by 1:

Boyd: Will almost certainly retire.
Smith: Signed a 1 year deal to see how his knees hold up. Fair enough on club and player.
Morris: Will retire or a further 1 year deal, fitness and form depending.
Hamilton: Make or break year for him. Up to him to show he's worth it, not the other way around.
Redpath: Only does 1 year deals. His call.
Murphy: Form and fitness by years end.
Dunkley: Must retain.
Collins: Watch how he develops but I'd be inclined to sign him up for a further 2 to let him develop.
Adams: Will most likely ask for a trade West.
Williams: Must re-sign
Dale: Watch his development. Might attract some trade interest.
Webb: Might attract some interest. Rate him highly.
McLean: CANNOT afford to let him remain uncontracted at seasons end. Need to secure him.
Daniel: As above.
Honeychurch: Some work to do to retain his spot.
Roberts: With Adams likely gone by years end he's got an opportunity to prove his worth.
Picken: Would be stunned if he walks but there'll be interest aplenty.
JJ: Priority number 1 is getting him signed up for at least 3 years.
Crameri: Will be interesting to see how he returns. With Cloke at the club now he's more important than ever for our structure.

Its a long list but it ain't as bad as it looks.

Webb and Dale in my mind are key, especially with Hrovat and Stevens now gone. I expect both will play games next year, more than they did this year. red year players that have the tank, and physique to really be good players.

[Axe Man]

That list doesn't concern me too much. JJ is the priority as other clubs will come hard for him if he remains unsigned deep into the season. Adams we will be trying to convince to stay. The players need to address the disconnect from the playing group that Adams apparently felt.

Boyd, Murphy & Morris will either retire or sign a 1 year deal.
Crameri & Picken should just be a formality to re-sign.
Would be surprised if there are any major issues re-signing Dunkley, Collins, Williams, McLean, Daniel, Clay Smith or Redpath.
Hamilton, Dale, Webb and Honeychurch need good seasons to be offered contracts.
Roberts will likely be re-signed without fuss unless Adams stays and we also look to recruit a quality key back from somewhere else.

[GVGjr]

That list doesn't concern me too much. JJ is the priority as other clubs will come hard for him if he remains unsigned deep into the season. Adams we will be trying to convince to stay. The players need to address the disconnect from the playing group that Adams apparently felt.

Boyd, Murphy & Morris will either retire or sign a 1 year deal.
Crameri & Picken should just be a formality to re-sign.
Would be surprised if there are any major issues re-signing Dunkley, Collins, Williams, McLean, Daniel, Clay Smith or Redpath.
Hamilton, Dale, Webb and Honeychurch need good seasons to be offered contracts.
Roberts will likely be re-signed without fuss unless Adams stays and we also look to recruit a quality key back from somewhere else.

I'm wondering how hard it will be to get an agreement from JJ as he and Stringer are very close. If we don't mess him around I'd think he will sign on again.

[azabob]

I'm wondering how hard it will be to get an agreement from JJ as he and Stringer are very close. If we don't mess him around I'd think he will sign on again.

As you mentioned above and referenced in another post if we put forward a strong offer to JJ you would think he'd have no hesitation in signing on again.

What happens if Stringer is unhappy with the club? Does this impact JJ decision making - I don't necessarily think it would.

As we all know things are changing in the football landscape, younger players are changing clubs regardless of contract status. In this case you are right JJ and Stringer are extremely close. However what we are also seeing is younger players are close with a lot of younger players regardless of what teams they play for.

Caddy and Prestia are still close mates from the Gold Coast days, Jager O'Meara is close with a number of the GWS boys, Marcus Bontempelli is close with Josh Kelly from GWS and there are bound to be numerous more examples.

Even when one player choses to leave their club and go to another club this isn't impacting friendship between players - It appears that each and every player coming through nowadays is fully aware that AFL is now a business and like any other day job.