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10-09-2017, 12:53 PM
#451
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Mark Stevens said on AFL Gameday that it was the Bulldogs telling Stringer that they are going to be putting him up for trade and not Stringer wanting out. If this is right it makes me feel sick.
Why on earth would the club initiate the trade. Is he that hard to work with. We trade him which gives him a rude awakening and he in turn pulls his finger out and becomes the Gary Ablett Snr type player that comes around once in a lifetime at our club and we traded him because he had a down couple years on and off the field.
I hope Mark Stevens is off the mark.
The Hawks offloaded Ablett at the end of 83, they then went on to dominate for years by win four flags in Ablett's playing days to his none.
I wan't us to keep Jake, but if he is not listening and putting in the work as some suggest then we need to make it a best case scenario for us and move on.
It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
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10-09-2017, 01:07 PM
#452
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Stringer not worth a top 15 pick? You're kidding me.
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10-09-2017, 01:18 PM
#453
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
If the trades not good enough, then he stays.
I've told of this convo I had with Brendan McCartney many times towards the end of 2014. He said he never spoke with Jake about talent, that's not something Jake needs to create, he's got talent. He said their convo's were all about work rate, because if he worked hard enough he'd be the best player BMac would have ever had involvement with. So all along it seems now the coaches (BMac & Bevo) and the players leadership group have been demanding 100% effort, 100% of the time. If they feel that the message might never get through, I could see why they've done this. Either stays with putting in the effort required (with this serving as a pull your bloody finger out), or we get something good at the trade table.
I guess we will know which one it is soon enough.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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10-09-2017, 01:18 PM
#454
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Stringer not worth a top 15 pick? You're kidding me.
It's probably not a case of what he is worth, he should be valued as a top 10 pick, but it's more about what the priorities are for the clubs with those early picks.
Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
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10-09-2017, 01:39 PM
#455
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I would be very surprised if there isn't a Club prepared to pay overs and back their extended football dept. to turn him around. The latent talent and upside would be too much for many to ignore.
It's kind of a broken model where those holding the reigns are pointing at the playing group, and yet this same bunch, overseeing our program, unable to get the best out of Jake and so many others.
Personally I see the crosshairs should be as much if not more aimed at those within the Club charged with managing and developing our playing group, who, with a couple of exceptions, by and large have regressed this season.
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10-09-2017, 02:21 PM
#456
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Making it abundantly clear the club's had a gutful and are determined to be rid of Jake seems a crazy way of maximising any potential return.
Crazy like a fox maybe.
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10-09-2017, 06:27 PM
#457
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
The club wouldn't take this lightly. Jake's been a jackass in more ways than one it seems and you can bet there is a strong consensus on this as opposed to two or three.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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12-09-2017, 06:41 PM
#458
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Confirmed.
1. Murphy
2. Boyd
3. Hamilton
Out of Contract
1. Honeychurch
2. Crameri
In Limbo and rumoured
1. Stringer (Damian Barrett, Stevo)
2. Dahl (Greg Baum)
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12-09-2017, 07:10 PM
#459
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Noticed Honeychurch was a no show for both VFL finals. Was this perhaps a result of bad blood post his review?
As for Dahl, surely not!?
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12-09-2017, 07:18 PM
#460
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Maybe it's the pessimistic bulldogs genes in me but all these rumours have a serious smell about them. I really hope they're wrong but where there's smoke......
If true, we've fallen short of being a destination club and are looking more like a departure lounge.
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
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12-09-2017, 07:24 PM
#461
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
always right
Maybe it's the pessimistic bulldogs genes in me but all these rumours have a serious smell about them. I really hope they're wrong but where there's smoke......
If true, we've fallen short of being a destination club and are looking more like a departure lounge.
I've heard some doozies lately, scarey stuff.
Bring back the biff
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12-09-2017, 09:22 PM
#462
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Crameri likely to stay now Stringer is going.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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12-09-2017, 09:24 PM
#463
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
azabob
Crameri likely to stay now Stringer is going.
You'd hope so. We need a mature body up there in that role.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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12-09-2017, 10:02 PM
#464
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
azabob
Crameri likely to stay now Stringer is going.
Is that being touted? I'd like to think that if we were to lose Stringer we could keep Crameri.
Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
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12-09-2017, 10:12 PM
#465
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Is that being touted? I'd like to think that if we were to lose Stringer we could keep Crameri.
Not a great way to (re) commit to Stewie though. If he has other suitors, which I'm guessing he would have, I'd imagine he would have already packed his bags.