The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

[Mofra]

John Ralph on SEN just said he expects Travis Cloke to announce his retirement by the end of the week.

HUN email updates state he's set to retire too.
Shame, hope he stays on as a specialist coach as I think he'd be great for Schache.

[Bulldog4life]

John Ralph on SEN just said he expects Travis Cloke to announce his retirement by the end of the week.

Might be room for Crameri after all. Wouldn't be surprised if the club initiated it. I heard that a while ago.

[bulldogtragic]

Might be room for Crameri after all. Wouldn't be surprised if the club initiated it. I heard that a while ago.

I'd be disappointed if we did. We threw away hundreds of thousands of dollars to come two us. And he still has something to offer.

[ledge]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...1116ee854cd993

[Bulldog Joe]

I think we still have options.

Despite a contract we can delist a player and then redraft as a rookie if nobody else picks them up.
We would only then be liable for the difference in the existing contract and new contract as a payout.

Tom Campbell would certainly fit a category to do that, if we want to open another list space.
It could also happen with Dickson, particularly if their is doubt on him fitness wise.

Still a bit to play out, with the rumour around Cloke as well as Dickson.

Would also be an option to add either to the coaching staff to meet any financial requirements.

[Bulldog4life]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...1116ee854cd993

paywall for me

[Bulldog4life]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...1116ee854cd993

TRAVIS Cloke seems destined to retire in coming days after being painted a bleak picture of his senior prospects next year.

The Herald Sun understands Cloke is taking several days to consider his future before the club’s next list lodgement deadline.

Cloke would be paid out next year on the final year of a modest two-season deal.

But with Tom Campbell not being offered a new home during the trade period, Cloke is behind Tom Boyd, Jack Redpath and new recruit Josh Schache.

Cloke has been one of the AFL’s best contested marking players over the years but, as a poor set-shot kick, he has also been a maligned player.

Cloke is understood to be leaning toward retiring, given he would almost certainly be playing VFL football all year.

The former Pies premiership player battled mental health issues but returned to football this season.

Cloke, 30, booted 452 goals from 256 matches but often struggled for accuracy.

The big man fell out of favour with Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley in 2016 and was dropped for Anzac Day.

He was traded to the Western Bulldogs last October, but his struggles continued.

Cloke managed 10 games for the Dogs, kicking 11.9.

Bulldog forwards Mitch Honeychurch and Stewart Crameri are without contracts with their futures in limbo, but Cloke’s departure could win a reprieve for at least one of them.

[Bulldog4life]

Mark Stevens‏ @Stevo7AFL 6m6 minutes ago
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It is over for Cloke, written statement coming. A realist, limited opportunity .. still had fire but finishing up

[Bulldog4life]

Mark Stevens‏ @Stevo7AFL 2m2 minutes ago
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Can also confirm Stewart Crameri has played his last game Dogs, Cloke exit didn't save him @7NewsMelbourne

[chef]

The right decision for us list wise.

[bulldogtragic]

Honeychurch is on record as wanting a fresh start. Perhaps we are after a DFA.

[Twodogs]

The right decision for us list wise.

Yep. We are finally making sensible pragmatic decisions without them being forced on us.

[bulldogtragic]

No Cloke & No Crameri, No Stringer.

Moving out forwards... Maybe Adams or Young might go forward after all.

[chef]

No Cloke & No Crameri, No Stringer.

Moving out forwards... Maybe Adams or Young might go forward after all.

Yep. We have plenty of other options.

[G-Mo77]

Yep. We are finally making sensible pragmatic decisions without them being forced on us.

I think it was forced TD. I don't think we planned for Shache at all and it was a last minute rush to get him. We banked on getting a high pick for Stringer and failed but landed on our feet with the Shache deal. This is not planned and Cloke's been forced out. I'm not upset by it but feel for him a little as others are running around on borrowed time.

It still doesn't sit well with me that we're only going to be taking 2 live picks (assuming Crameri gets a deal now) we've managed our list spots poorly this year. Some players we just need to hold back on signing rather than ink them as soon as possible.