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25-10-2017, 05:59 PM
#661
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I’m very pleased with the announcements today.
HC may never be a worldbeater, Richmond smalls weren’t either but they formed a group capable of winning a flag this year and Mitch can help us in the defensive areas of the game. If he kicked better this year he would’ve had some multiple goal games, so he needs to straighten that out to remain in the system beyond 2018, however I like we’ve persisted with him.
Cloke a victim of Schache and Redpath’s 2 year deal, while Crammers is too long out the game with a hung hip which reduces his speed and running - his biggest assets (at least, presumably that’s what we’ve determined and based our decision on).
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25-10-2017, 05:59 PM
#662
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I'm really happy for Mitch. I thought he improved this year, and with some better conversion would have had a bigger impact.
Perhaps I'm a bit different than others, but I think with confidence he'll become better at executing in front of goal and cement the small forward spot.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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25-10-2017, 06:08 PM
#663
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I'm really happy for Mitch. I thought he improved this year, and with some better conversion would have had a bigger impact.
Perhaps I'm a bit different than others, but I think with confidence he'll become better at executing in front of goal and cement the small forward spot.
Jinx.
Imagine HC and Dahl terrorising defenders once Boyd and Schache bring the ball to ground. Our time in F50 will double.
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25-10-2017, 06:09 PM
#664
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
I think HC is a good depth insurance player if you don't want to tap into kids that aren't ready.
1 year deal is ok in a weak draft where they may not of been much talent.
While I don't think he is good enough at least he has endeavour and i'd take that any day over many others.
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25-10-2017, 06:13 PM
#665
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Glad we removed Cloke, Crameri and to some extent Stringer from the list.
We have had an issue with too many mid sized forwards. Can you play Stringer and Crameri plus other talls scenario.
I think it was clear Cloke was passed his used by, Crameri may never get his body right, and if he did probably only has a couple years left anyway, and Stringer, well there are plenty of issues there.
I don't think Redpath and Cloke could work together but Boyd/Roughie pinch hitting with Red will work, and then we have Schache if he gets up to the level required.
I think the changes have made the choices a little easier and hopefully the balance as well.
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25-10-2017, 06:14 PM
#666
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
Jinx.
Imagine HC and Dahl terrorising defenders once Boyd and Schache bring the ball to ground. Our time in F50 will double.
Does somebody have to say my name or something now that I'm jinxed? I haven't been jinxed in years!
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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25-10-2017, 06:24 PM
#667
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Delaying the inevitable with Honey, I actually think his forward pressure isn't that great let alone his skills.
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25-10-2017, 06:27 PM
#668
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
So he's getting cut next season then. Got it.
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25-10-2017, 07:20 PM
#669
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
The story to date:
Out:
Matthew Boyd (ret)
Travis Cloke (ret)
Stewart Crameri (del)
Declan Hamilton (del)
Robert Murphy (ret)
Jake Stringer (trd)
In:
Schache
Crozier
Trengove
Leaves 3 live picks for Draft.
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25-10-2017, 07:43 PM
#670
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The story to date:
Out:
Matthew Boyd (ret)
Travis Cloke (ret)
Stewart Crameri (del)
Declan Hamilton (del)
Robert Murphy (ret)
Jake Stringer (trd)
Well over 1000 games experience gone there.
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25-10-2017, 07:58 PM
#671
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
ledge
I did say maybe, apparently he is looking at options. But he does have another year on his contract.
Honeychurch being on the potential outgoing list is fine because he doesn't have a contract. What triggered the Campbell is potentially going comment from you interests me?
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25-10-2017, 08:05 PM
#672
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Dry Rot
Who are those 10 in your eyes?
Off the top of my head without considering contract status:
Honey
Redders
Webb
Roughy
Greene
Morris
Biggsy
Dickson
Suckers
Campbell
C Smith
Roberts
Collins
Jong
Libba (if he relapses)
Lynch
R Smith
NM-M
Of course we won't make this many changes, and some are more vulnerable than others. I expect all of the above list to improve significantly on their 2017 output if they are serious about their long term AFL careers.
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25-10-2017, 08:07 PM
#673
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Hotdog60
Mitch's biggest downside is his conversion rate. If he nailed 95% of his pings at goal he would be seen in a different light.
I was only saying that the other day. If he just converted one of every two missed shots within 35mtrs of the goal we would think he's about a best 22 player. He's just got to take his chances.
While I agree with a lot of what TBB says about keeping him on I think the fact that he has a sensational attitude towards training and doing the right things has saved him given we probably had some challenges in that area this year.
I hope Mitch works hard on his goal kicking because if he gets that right he will get a longer deal next year.
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25-10-2017, 08:09 PM
#674
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Does somebody have to say my name or something now that I'm jinxed? I haven't been jinxed in years!
Shoosh you.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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25-10-2017, 09:45 PM
#675
Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017
Negativity around Honeychurch is a touch harsh - wouldn’t have said he’s slow. Probably played our best stretch of footy through the middle of the year with him playing defensive forward. Gets involved and finds the footy, which is more than you can say for Webb when he’s had opportunities.
Happy with the extra year
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