The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

[GVGjr]

In defence of HC he did stick 10 tackles in a game last year as a pressure forward, he does at least try his heart out and doesn't drop his head.
Perhaps a lot of our list strategy this trade period is about delivering a message to the group about professionalism and training standards?

Trengove is one of the most solid characters in the AFL, Crozier doesn't seem like a dickhead at all, Schache isn't a partier, Stringer and Crameri gone, HC rewarded.

I think this makes the most sense to me, I think we could have cut deeper into the list but picking from the back end of the draft probably weakens our position and makes HC look more like a better option.

[Webby]

I was of the opinion that HC wasn't quite up to it, however, after chatting to a mate, I've been swayed that he's worth keeping on the list.

Reason being team balance, character and particularly the kid's forward line pressure. Although I still believe he's too slow to do any real damage in midfield, he's reasonably quick over 5-10m and is a good tackler. In the modern game and particularly with some tall forwards, he'll be a handy option as a small defensive forward.

He has the Mick McKenna, Terry Wheeler, Libba Snr pluck and desire - which not only makes them likeable as a fan, but I think rubs off on the group.

[Happy Days]

In defence of HC he did stick 10 tackles in a game last year as a pressure forward, he does at least try his heart out and doesn't drop his head.
Perhaps a lot of our list strategy this trade period is about delivering a message to the group about professionalism and training standards?

Don't know how to get a read on HC; some are saying things similar to this, others have him inside the worst 31 players in the comp.

[jeemak]

Don't know how to get a read on HC; some are saying things similar to this, others have him inside the worst 31 players in the comp.

You should make up your own mind.

[Twodogs]

I agree with a lot of this but I'm not convinced Gowers is an upgrade on HC. We can probably find better players than HC but given we are picking from the back of the queue we don't want a situation where our targeted players are gone before our picks like how we missed on Long and Hanahan last year

Gowers has sticky hands but is one of the most frustrating kicks I. Have. Ever. Seen. It's 'spread out this could go anywhere' time when he's shooting at goal.

I went for a check up a couple of weeks ago and my doctor said my blood pressure was ideal but I don't think it could withstand a season of me watching Billy Gowers spray the ball everywhere to go with the rest of our goalkicking efforts.

[G-Mo77]

Geez I hope HC has a terrific season and sticks it up a lot of arses in here.

[Rocket Science]

Geez I hope HC has a terrific season and sticks it up a lot of arses in here.

I'd gladly assume the position if Honeychurch steps up and helps make us harder to play against!

Just not sure I wanna hold my breath waiting for it.

[Happy Days]

You should make up your own mind.

Oh I've definitely made up my mind on Honeychurch, he isn't good at AFL and I would have preferred the dart throw at 82 in the draft.

The other post might be a reference to a certain thread made by a certain poster on a certain other football forum.

[bornadog]

Oh I've definitely made up my mind on Honeychurch, he isn't good at AFL and I would have preferred the dart throw at 82 in the draft.

The other post might be a reference to a certain thread made by a certain poster on a certain other football forum.

Do you really think a pick 82 would be better than HC? I think we don't have much choice but to keep him. If we had a pick inside the second round, he would most likely be gone.

[Mantis]

Do you really think a pick 82 would be better than HC? I think we don't have much choice but to keep him. If we had a pick inside the second round, he would most likely be gone.

It's the known vs the unknown.. Mitch is highly unlikely to forge out a decent AFL career, what pick 82 becomes is a mystery.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Do you really think a pick 82 would be better than HC? I think we don't have much choice but to keep him. If we had a pick inside the second round, he would most likely be gone.

I understand the rationale, but if you're certain the known quantity (HC) won't make it then I don't understand why you keep them on for another year. I'd rather put 12-24 months development into another player, be it a young kid or a state league player.

On the first point, surely we should know whether HC is going to make it or not after 4 years.

Traditionally we keep players on the list too long and this is another example IMO.

[jeemak]

It says to me that we at least rate Mitch good enough for depth, in a year where we think we should be having a crack.

[LostDoggy]

Given we've lost Stringer, Crameri, Cloke and Murphy (who played a fair bit forward last year), and we have Picken (30) and Dickson (29 with ongoing injury issues) as probably our starting deep small/mid forwards, I can't blame our list managers for seeing HC as a bit of insurance for 2018 ahead of whomever may be available at pick 82.

[kruder]

Is it just me or do others think the Bulldogs are going through a mini reset? I still think we can be competitive in 18 but all that we are doing looks for mine that we are gearing towards 19-20 and beyond when we can sustain a top 4 finish and be in the so called window again. Where do people think the list is at now we are only have few spots available?

[boydogs]

Is it just me or do others think the Bulldogs are going through a mini reset? I still think we can be competitive in 18 but all that we are doing looks for mine that we are gearing towards 19-20 and beyond when we can sustain a top 4 finish and be in the so called window again. Where do people think the list is at now we are only have few spots available?

There's a long list of players who underperformed in 2017, if most step up we could be top 4 but that's probably unlikely