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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    GWS took De Boer & Mzungu late last year. Having 82 as a live pick gives us options on draft night. Several types of options as you say. With Dal's recent work in particular, giving him another live pick is a good thing. We will have Smith at the club next year if we simply rookie draft him. So this is not all too bad.
    Have you seen the list of DFA available right now? This list is pretty thin even before the DFA signings can take place.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/ne...-roarke-smith-

    Looks like we're going to re-rookie Smith. Good result all round.
    Given his injuries this is a fair outcome
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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Given his injuries this is a fair outcome
    Perfect outcome. Dal gets 82. Roarke stays. So we all get what we want.
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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Yes definitely a better outcome for the club

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Much more sensible outcome than upgrading him.

    In harsh reality it’s debatable whether we should re rookie him, but happy to do so if the club likes him. Leap and pace looks good but he will need more than that if he’s to make it.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    I think he has shown enough positives when on-field, as evidenced by the fact that he was given a debut, and if not for his knee injuries we likely would have seen further improvement.

    I'm glad he's not on the senior list, but also very glad that we've retained him for another year. I think he would be well aware of where is at, and what is expected of him in 2018. If he is not playing regular senior football (he will be eligible even though he is a rookie) or at least shown significant improvement then I think our decision at the end of next year is simple, regardless of injuries.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    I think he has shown enough positives when on-field, as evidenced by the fact that he was given a debut, and if not for his knee injuries we likely would have seen further improvement.

    I'm glad he's not on the senior list, but also very glad that we've retained him for another year. I think he would be well aware of where is at, and what is expected of him in 2018. If he is not playing regular senior football (he will be eligible even though he is a rookie) or at least shown significant improvement then I think our decision at the end of next year is simple, regardless of injuries.
    If he gets to us. How would the detractors towards the decision to delist and hopefully retain him if he falls a fair way to a late-ish rookie selection react? Is the club vindicated, or do we worry about them taking a risk?

    I'd be surprised if we didn't know if other parties were interested in his services.
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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    If he gets to us. How would the detractors towards the decision to delist and hopefully retain him if he falls a fair way to a late-ish rookie selection? Is the club vindicated, or do we worry about them taking a risk?

    I'd be surprised if we didn't know if other parties were interested in his services.
    The quote from McCartney that we've had positive discussions with Roarke and his management (paraphrased) suggests that we're fairly confident he'll still be there for us.

    If another team wants to jump in and take him, meaning we have another rookie pick for a new player, I won't be overly upset. I'd prefer that than having him on the main list.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    I have to assume this decision has been made well after the trade period given how late we were willing to have our 3rd pick come in (82). That being said, by the time draft night comes around, I suspect pick 82 will be closer to pick 55-60 in terms of live picks.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutsPeanuts View Post
    I so hope the player we are looking at with 82 is Liam Ryan.
    Do you think he will last till pick 82? Gosh I hope so (but doubt it).

    I just watched his highlight reel/looked up his stats and he looks bloody impressive. Seems he had a disappointing grand final (well blanketed by Nyhuis) but 73 goals, sitting on blokes heads, and positive reports from the combine surely has a few clubs looking at him.

    Writeup and video for those that are interested:
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-1...tes-wa-combine

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    The quote from McCartney that we've had positive discussions with Roarke and his management (paraphrased) suggests that we're fairly confident he'll still be there for us.

    If another team wants to jump in and take him, meaning we have another rookie pick for a new player, I won't be overly upset. I'd prefer that than having him on the main list.
    Agreed. I just always find it funny, given how long the AFEL drags out this period for media coverage, how we pull our collective skirts over our heads when things look to be going one way over another, with plenty of time left at this time of year.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by The Adelaide Connection View Post
    Do you think he will last till pick 82? Gosh I hope so (but doubt it).

    I just watched his highlight reel/looked up his stats and he looks bloody impressive. Seems he had a disappointing grand final (well blanketed by Nyhuis) but 73 goals, sitting on blokes heads, and positive reports from the combine surely has a few clubs looking at him.

    Writeup and video for those that are interested:
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-1...tes-wa-combine
    Nope, he's not there at our last pick. If his highlights are in any way indicative of talent versus getting to the right positions he's a second round pick at the latest.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by The Adelaide Connection View Post
    Do you think he will last till pick 82? Gosh I hope so (but doubt it).

    I just watched his highlight reel/looked up his stats and he looks bloody impressive. Seems he had a disappointing grand final (well blanketed by Nyhuis) but 73 goals, sitting on blokes heads, and positive reports from the combine surely has a few clubs looking at him.

    Writeup and video for those that are interested:
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-1...tes-wa-combine
    He was in the draft lst year and a few pundits thought he'd go but clubs were concerned about his commitment/professionalism. Despite doing so well this year, can't see anyone going too early on him. Gee his skillset would be nice for us.

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutsPeanuts View Post
    He was in the draft lst year and a few pundits thought he'd go but clubs were concerned about his commitment/professionalism. Despite doing so well this year, can't see anyone going too early on him. Gee his skillset would be nice for us.
    He is spoken about in the draft thread

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    Re: The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

    I just don't think we have the right people and support networks around our club to support the young indigenous kids.

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