Welcome to the Bulldogs - Tim English

[JanLorMill]

From club Twitter account :

Tim English set a new club record with 60 hit-outs in a game against the Swans.

This also puts him 4th for the club's most hit-outs in a season

Club record? When did start counting taps properly? I would have though Gary Dempsey would have been close to this number

[bornadog]

Club record? When did start counting taps properly? I would have though Gary Dempsey would have been close to this number

Career averages are Dempsey 19.7 (includes games at North) and Tim 19.8

[JanLorMill]

Career averages are Dempsey 19.7 (includes games at North) and Tim 19.8

I find that hard to believe. Can’t see a complete range of stats for at least 1974 and 75.

[JanLorMill]

From afltable.com Dempsey had a high of 63taps with north in 1982 and career average of 22.04 but you can see there are hardly any stats recorded for 1974 and his 75 his Brownlow year with a number of other games til 1978 where there are no HO stats

[bornadog]

From afltable.com Dempsey had a high of 63taps with north in 1982 and career average of 22.04 but you can see there are hardly any stats recorded for 1974 and his 75 his Brownlow year with a number of other games til 1978 where there are no HO stats

here you go

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...--gary-dempsey

also

Most Dogs? hit-outs in a season: English enters top four


Ruck Tim English has recorded the fourth-most hit-outs by a Bulldog in a single season, with six games of 2023 remaining.

From his 17 outings this season, English has won a total of 516 hit-outs at an average of 30.35 per match.

His 60 hit-outs against the Swans on Thursday night set a new Club record for most hit-outs in a game, while propelling him into fourth spot for the Club?s most hit-outs in a season.

English leapfrogged Andrew Purser?s 1983 record of 489 hit-outs and is now closing in on the third-placed Will Minson (667 hit-outs in 2012).

English also collected 22 disposals, four marks and 10 clearances against Sydney, marking one of his most impactful appearances of the season to date.

Western Bulldogs ? Most hit-outs in a game

Tim English (60 hit-outs) ? Round 18, 2023
Will Minson (57) ? Round 10, 2013
Will Minson (56) ? Round 6, 2011
Will Minson (55) ? Round 3, 2014
Will Minson (54) ? Round 17, 2012

Western Bulldogs ? Most hit-outs in a season


Will Minson (860 hit-outs) ? 2013
Will Minson (757) ? 2014
Will Minson (667) ? 2012
Tim English (516*) ? 2023
Andrew Purser (489) ? 1983

*At the end of Round 18.

[MrMahatma]

And Bevo wouldn’t play Minson

[Hotdog60]

And Bevo wouldn’t play Minson

I loved Minno, but another ruck with cement hands and I think this is the only knock on Sweet.
Not so much he's not mobile enough but if he is in a contest there's less than 10% chance of marking it.
Now days and probably starting at the end of Minson's career as ruck you need to provide the kick down the line option and give the kicker the confidence that if he goes in that direction 8 out 10 times your ruck will clunk it.

[JanLorMill]

here you go

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...--gary-dempsey

Like I said before those stats aren’t complete

[bornadog]

Like I said before those stats aren’t complete

Yes they are for Hitouts.

Did you look

[mjp]

Isn't this like Pendlebury breaking the record for possessions?

Who actually cares? When hitout numbers are being reported the world has gone deadset crazy.

[bornadog]

Isn't this like Pendlebury breaking the record for possessions?

Who actually cares? When hitout numbers are being reported the world has gone deadset crazy.

I actually agree, but when it gets to Tim being any good or not, then the discussion continues.

[Danjul]

I loved Minno, but another ruck with cement hands and I think this is the only knock on Sweet.
Not so much he's not mobile enough but if he is in a contest there's less than 10% chance of marking it.
Now days and probably starting at the end of Minson's career as ruck you need to provide the kick down the line option and give the kicker the confidence that if he goes in that direction 8 out 10 times your ruck will clunk it.

I watched just under half of the VFL game and saw someone take an overhead pack mark and go back and kick a goal from 45 m near boundary. I saw the same person running around the half forward flank and give a handpass to Arty for a simple shot at goal. They also took a mark on the backline and gave a 45m pass to Khamis who dropped the chest mark.

cannot think of the name, wasn?t Bruce or Lobb, but they were above average height. Seemed to be a prime mover contributing to the team?s momentum.

Lobb is averaging 2.3 marks per game, the 0.3 is the contested part.

How many are taking a contested mark 8 out of 10 attempts? English and Naughton are averaging under 2 per game and The Bont is averaging less than 1 - actually close to one every 2 games.

For some players the bar rises when the discussion gets to them.

[1eyedog]

Isn't this like Pendlebury breaking the record for possessions?

Who actually cares? When hitout numbers are being reported the world has gone deadset crazy.

Gill going down to the rooms and congratulating the bloke who goes ok at Basketball was dumb.

Re. English the Swans didn't actually play a ruckman that night, right?

[JanLorMill]

Yes they are for Hitouts.

Did you look

I did. Did you?
30HO in 1974 from 21 games?
167HO in 1975 from 21 games in Brownlow year when averaging 19,that’s not right.
Obviously there were games missed.
You can see it here. https://afltables.com/afl/stats/play...sey.html#teamp

[bornadog]

I did. Did you?
30HO in 1974 from 21 games?
167HO in 1975 from 21 games in Brownlow year when averaging 19,that’s not right.
Obviously there were games missed.
You can see it here. https://afltables.com/afl/stats/play...sey.html#teamp

ok, I didn't look at year by year totals.