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12-09-2022, 10:39 AM
#166
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
azabob
Interestingly Nathan Buckley said Collingwood put up Pat Lipinski for all Australian selection this year.
He is a worse judge than I thought
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12-09-2022, 10:41 AM
#167
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
bornadog
He is a worse judge than I thought
Buckley said COLLINGWOOD put him up for All Australian Selection.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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12-09-2022, 10:56 AM
#168
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
azabob
Buckley said COLLINGWOOD put him up for All Australian Selection.
Ok, they are a worse judge than I thought
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12-09-2022, 11:03 AM
#169
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
azabob
Interestingly Nathan Buckley said Collingwood put up Pat Lipinski for all Australian selection this year.
The club obviously values his performances, good luck to him but he was struggling to hold a spot with us. It was a good move for him.
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12-09-2022, 01:02 PM
#170
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Ok, they are a worse judge than I thought
It's probably more a statement of how team-reliant their performance is vs our more individual-reliant performance. They don't need individual brilliance to carry them over the line and have a team of players who all know their role and perform it. That means someone who statistically would be our 5th-7th best mid is someone they can nominate for AA honours.
We rely on individual brilliance right now. Bont or Libba or Naughton need to stand up and carry our team over the line despite the deficiencies we have in structure/system and to a lesser extent personnel.
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12-09-2022, 02:56 PM
#171
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
hujsh
It's probably more a statement of how team-reliant their performance is vs our more individual-reliant performance. They don't need individual brilliance to carry them over the line and have a team of players who all know their role and perform it. That means someone who statistically would be our 5th-7th best mid is someone they can nominate for AA honours.
We rely on individual brilliance right now. Bont or Libba or Naughton need to stand up and carry our team over the line despite the deficiencies we have in structure/system and to a lesser extent personnel.
Never really thought of us that way but I think you are right. We need more of that team ethos approach similar to 2016. Maybe with our newer generation coming through they form a tight bond - not only do they have star quality but more importantly work for each other in a team sense.
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12-09-2022, 03:02 PM
#172
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
I watched both Collingwood finals with interest. I thought he wasn't great in either. He had a few moments when in plenty of space where he used the ball well, but I also saw plenty of moments when the pressure was high that he either fumbled, didn't go hard enough or made poor decisions. This is exactly the issues that we had with him. When you are winning easily, he looks like a superstar. In a big pressure game when the pressure is high, he rarely stands up.
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12-09-2022, 05:43 PM
#173
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
I watched both Collingwood finals with interest. I thought he wasn't great in either. He had a few moments when in plenty of space where he used the ball well, but I also saw plenty of moments when the pressure was high that he either fumbled, didn't go hard enough or made poor decisions. This is exactly the issues that we had with him. When you are winning easily, he looks like a superstar. In a big pressure game when the pressure is high, he rarely stands up.
2020 Finals against the Saints. Could not lay a tackle! That's not his game and he can play elsewhere on the field.
Bullies offered him a 3-yr deal don't forget.
Also, Lipinski going made it easier to get Darcy. Have to think of it in that context too.
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12-09-2022, 05:51 PM
#174
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
I watched both Collingwood finals with interest. I thought he wasn't great in either. He had a few moments when in plenty of space where he used the ball well, but I also saw plenty of moments when the pressure was high that he either fumbled, didn't go hard enough or made poor decisions. This is exactly the issues that we had with him. When you are winning easily, he looks like a superstar. In a big pressure game when the pressure is high, he rarely stands up.
He's been one of their best for most of the season and they've played in tight close contests for nearly the entire 2nd half of the season. If he was so poor he would have been dropped. He'd be perfect for us, wish we had managed to sway him to stay.
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12-09-2022, 07:56 PM
#175
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
He's been one of their best for most of the season and they've played in tight close contests for nearly the entire 2nd half of the season. If he was so poor he would have been dropped. He'd be perfect for us, wish we had managed to sway him to stay.
I am reliably informed that his decision to leave was based on Bevo and the reluctance to play him.
His season justifies the decision and I certainly don't believe he would have played every game if he had stayed with us.
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12-09-2022, 08:14 PM
#176
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
I am reliably informed that his decision to leave was based on Bevo and the reluctance to play him.
His season justifies the decision and I certainly don't believe he would have played every game if he had stayed with us.
He's a gun player.
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12-09-2022, 08:25 PM
#177
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
WBFC4FFC
2020 Finals against the Saints. Could not lay a tackle! That's not his game and he can play elsewhere on the field
Played 2 finals with us and had 1 tackle in each. As you say we offered him 3 years and I'm not sure what else we could have done to convince him to stay.
I'm glad he had a good year but AA talk is a little over the top.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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12-09-2022, 08:30 PM
#178
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Played 2 finals with us and had 1 tackle in each. As you say we offered him 3 years and I'm not sure what else we could have done to convince him to stay.
I'm glad he had a good year but AA talk is a little over the top.
Fourth for tackles at the Pies this season. Would've been fifth for us. Macrae 87 was fourth, Lipinski 83.
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12-09-2022, 08:46 PM
#179
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
I am reliably informed that his decision to leave was based on Bevo and the reluctance to play him.
His season justifies the decision and I certainly don't believe he would have played every game if he had stayed with us.
He was always up against with our depth. He joined our list about 3-4 years too early based on where our core were at. Treloar trade and Bailey Smith being such a gun instantly didn’t help either.
Happy for Lipinski, right move for all involved.
Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?
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12-09-2022, 08:51 PM
#180
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Played 2 finals with us and had 1 tackle in each. As you say we offered him 3 years and I'm not sure what else we could have done to convince him to stay.
I'm glad he had a good year but AA talk is a little over the top.
TD, you do realise it was his club Collingwood who nominated him for all Australian selection?
More of an In Bruges guy?