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    Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    The key figure for what we net for Hrovat is swapping our 3rd rounder with North this year. (The fourth round swap goes to St Kilda so who cares).

    Hrovat Compo:

    As of round 4 - the live ladder is obtaining from North nominal pick 38 (to go with our 1st & 2nd round selections, and assuming later picks used on 2 rookie upgrades. Giving us three picks inside 38 to draft and/or trade, without anything else happening).
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    Pardon my ignorance, but how do we get 2 first rounders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remi Moses View Post
    Pardon my ignorance, but how do we get 2 first rounders
    Poor wording on my part. To go with our first picks, inside the first two rounds. Fixed.
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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    This is like a mini-me version of what the Saints are doing with Hawthorn. Norf look destined to be a bottom 4 team now, as they will embrace the rebuild and the opportunity to get some top-end talent into their list now that they are 0-4 and all but out of calculations for this season. It could end up being a 12-14 spot upgrade for our 3rd and 4th rounders, which is a nice result for a player who would not have improved our team one iota this season and beyond.
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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    So. We got North's third and fourth round picks this year for Hrovat is that right? So if North finish 18th then our picks will the first selection of round three of the draft and the first selection of round four of the draft. Is that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    So. We got North's third and fourth round picks this year for Hrovat is that right? So if North finish 18th then our picks will the first selection of round three of the draft and the first selection of round four of the draft. Is that right?
    We gave North's 4th rounder this year to St Kilda in the Stevens trade. So the only thing for us is looking at the third rounder.
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    We gave North's 4th rounder this year to St Kilda in the Stevens trade. So the only thing for us is looking at the third rounder.
    What did we get from the Saints again?
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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    What did we get from the Saints again?
    An 11 pick upgrade last year. They'll probably get a 25 pick upgrade this year. So they're net ahead, plus Stevens.
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    This is like a mini-me version of what the Saints are doing with Hawthorn. Norf look destined to be a bottom 4 team now, as they will embrace the rebuild and the opportunity to get some top-end talent into their list now that they are 0-4 and all but out of calculations for this season. It could end up being a 12-14 spot upgrade for our 3rd and 4th rounders, which is a nice result for a player who would not have improved our team one iota this season and beyond.
    Still not a great trade IMO, but hopefully we get lucky and can maximise the pic.

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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    An 11 pick upgrade last year. They'll probably get a 25 pick upgrade this year. So they're net ahead, plus Stevens.
    Average trading, but sometimes you take a hit to help a player find a home and get longer term benefits (good relationships with other clubs, reputation as a good home for players).
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Average trading, but sometimes you take a hit to help a player find a home and get longer term benefits (good relationships with other clubs, reputation as a good home for players).
    If the rough plan was use 3 picks in 2017 (18, 36 & 38), upgrade Lynch & Smith and grab a free agent then 6 changes means we wouldn't use North's 4th rounder in any event. Six changes is still a fair turnover (Bob, Boyd, Hamilton, Honey and still two more).
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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    Will you tell Bob he's retiring or shall I do it?
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    Well-meaning little therapists
    Goose-stepping twelve-stepping Tetotalitarianists
    The tipsy, the reeling and the drop down pissed
    We got no time for that stuff here
    Zero crime and no fear
    We've bred all our kittens white
    So you can see them in the night
    And at night we're on our knees
    As quiet as a mouse
    Since the word got out
    From the North down to the South
    For no-one's left in doubt
    There's no fear about
    If we all hold hands and very quietly shout
    Hallelujah
    God is in the house...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Will you tell Bob he's retiring or shall I do it?
    I think he will do it off his own bat. I hope the boys do it with Bob before that occurs.
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    We gave North's 4th rounder this year to St Kilda in the Stevens trade. So the only thing for us is looking at the third rounder.
    So we gave them Stevens and our fourth rounder this year for an eleven pick upgrade in which round last year?
    AFL premiers 2016
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    Well-meaning little therapists
    Goose-stepping twelve-stepping Tetotalitarianists
    The tipsy, the reeling and the drop down pissed
    We got no time for that stuff here
    Zero crime and no fear
    We've bred all our kittens white
    So you can see them in the night
    And at night we're on our knees
    As quiet as a mouse
    Since the word got out
    From the North down to the South
    For no-one's left in doubt
    There's no fear about
    If we all hold hands and very quietly shout
    Hallelujah
    God is in the house...

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    Re: Hrovat Draft Compo Watch - Round by Round

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    So we gave them Stevens and our fourth rounder this year for an eleven pick upgrade in which round last year?
    The full trade is:

    Dogs: 11 pick upgrade 2016 (pick 61 into pick 50), Saints 5th rounder 2017 (which we won't probably use, circa pick 84)
    Saints: Stevens, 2016 11 pick downgrade, Then on traded Norths 2017 good fourth rounder (circa 26 pick upgrade for Saints - pick 84 into 58)

    So they basicly got Stevens for free and with a net gain in the draft order.

    So Brian Lake = Hrovat & Stevens. Hrovat & Stevens = net gain of around 25 draft order spots, and net loss of around 25 draft orderspots... No net draft/player gain for trading Lake now.
    Matty Boyd Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2011-2013 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - Premiership side: 2016 - Charles Sutton Medal: 2009, 2011, 2012 - All Australian team: 2009, 2011, 2016 - Best Team Player: 2016 - Coaches Award: 2015 - Match Committee Award: 2007 - International Rules Series: 2008, 2010 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - Record Games Played by a Rookie - 8th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 66th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray Western Bulldogs - Most Finals Won by any Footscray/Western Bulldogs Player - Brownlow Votes: 108

    Bob Murphy Career Highlights:

    Club Captain: 2015-2017 - Night Premiership Side: 2010 - All Australian team: 2011 & 2015 as Captain - AFLPA Best Captain 2015 - Rising Star Nominee & Most Promising player: 2001 - Best Team Player: 2003 - Runner Up, Charles Sutton Medal: 2011 & 2015 - International Rules Series: 2002, 2003 - AFL Life Member - Western Bulldogs Life Member - 6th Most Games Played for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - 27th Most Goals Kicked for Footscray/Western Bulldogs - Club Captain of Western Bulldogs in Premiership Year: 2016 - Brownlow Votes: 51

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