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    Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

    I'm going to the Rising Star tomorrow - bit of a downer that there are no dogs involved.
    The last time I went was the year Bont ran second.

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    Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by KT31 View Post
    First season in years we haven't had one let alone two.
    Young and Lipinski should be good chances to pick up nominations next year if they continue to improve.

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    The media picked McGrath at the start of the year
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    The media picked McGrath at the start of the year
    Should be renamed the "best first year half-back without an opponent" award
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    Burton was robbed.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Burton was robbed.
    So was Bont and you could also lay a claim so was Daniel.. It's supposed to be about who you think will be the next star but it seems they pick them on the year they have in the first year and don't look at the future improvement. Seriously Bontempelli not getting it was an outright horrid decision and everyone could see it !
    Bring back the biff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    So was Bont and you could also lay a claim so was Daniel.. It's supposed to be about who you think will be the next star but it seems they pick them on the year they have in the first year and don't look at the future improvement. Seriously Bontempelli not getting it was an outright horrid decision and everyone could see it !
    The award is about who has had the better year. If it was who is the nest star then Curnow would have won.

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    Yeah it isn't about who will be the next star and never has been

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    Quote Originally Posted by anfo27 View Post
    The award is about who has had the better year. If it was who is the nest star then Curnow would have won.
    But it should be that's why it's called the "rising"star. They are supposed to choose who they think is the best to come not who had a good first year.
    Bontempelli embarrassed them when the players voted he won by a country mile.
    Bring back the biff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    But it should be that's why it's called the "rising"star. They are supposed to choose who they think is the best to come not who had a good first year.
    Bontempelli embarrassed them when the players voted he won by a country mile.
    What metric do they use to predict" who the best player going forward is"? The vibe?
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    What metric do they use to predict" who the best player going forward is"? The vibe?
    The same way clubs use to choose players, upside,not always the best player in the final year.
    The rising star should be called the best first year player the way they choose it.
    The rising star should be someone they can see the most upside with.
    Bring back the biff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    The same way clubs use to choose players, upside,not always the best player in the final year.
    The rising star should be called the best first year player the way they choose it.
    The rising star should be someone they can see the most upside with.
    Disagree entirely and think that makes no sense at all.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

    Its essentially a "Rookie of the Year" which is always best performed in the year.

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    Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Topdog View Post
    Its essentially a "Rookie of the Year" which is always best performed in the year.
    Yep. That's what it is.

    As another poster has said, Curnow probably wins the 'who do you want for 10 years' conversation, but you can't say he had a better season than McGrath.

    In the Bont year - I still think Bont had more of an impact than Taylor and should have won - but with Taylor playing 22 games and putting up similar numbers, I can at least see how it was possible.

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