-
11-09-2017, 06:15 PM
#241
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Originally Posted by
jeemak
If you tackle around the waist and the person you're tackling contorts their body making your tackle slip to below the knees resulting in a trip, should it be holding the ball?
Footballers have been bending their knees manoeuvring in traffic forever, do they all have to run around as upright as they possibly can now, so as to ensure a tackle doesn't slip over the shoulders?
It's a bonkers rule change. If you're going to try and pin the arms by tackling well above the elbow then you risk tackling high, and so be it.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I agree, once more a knee jerk reaction without thinking of the consequences of changing a rule.
Let's just ban tackling and give them tackle belts. At least it would be adjudicated correctly.
Originally Posted by
Topdog
Improved on last year
That's because we weren't there to take them out. The others ganged up on us to keep us out of the finals because they were scared of us.
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Bingo. So if you want to lay the perfect tackle and lock the ball in, you risk giving away a free kick for too high should it slip up above the shoulders. If you want to negate the player but lower the risk of giving away a free kick, you aim lower.
A player lowering their centre of gravity or raising arms when tackled isn't instigating high contact - it's the tackler who's doing that. Lowering your centre of gravity enables you to dispose of the ball more effectively, it also gives you options of going low or high with the handpass in congestion.
Why the AFL gave into the hysteria is beyond me. Now all we have is more hysteria.
The tackler who tackles high wants to do everything (impair disposal and tackle) at the same time but that was never the idea. Is it a little more difficult learning how to pin a tackle around the waste properly too do you think?
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
-
11-09-2017, 06:18 PM
#242
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Originally Posted by
Ozza
Because if the arms are free, you aren't stopping the player from moving the ball on to their team mate via handball.
There are plenty of situations where players would rather risk giving away a free, than letting the handball get out.
In the old days the motion of being swung around was usually sufficient to knock the ball free and get dropping the ball but now players are better at hanging on to it.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
-
11-09-2017, 06:33 PM
#243
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Players are Told to encourage the tackle so it leaves a player over the top to handball to. Thus creating the higher tackle to counter the arms being free.
I believe Geelong started that idea like the Hawks created the Shepherd the man on the mark so the player with the free kick could run past.
It's called evolution and countering opposition tactics.
Bring back the biff
-
13-09-2017, 01:44 PM
#244
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
One thing I hate, is this notion of "Oh you've gotta reward the tackler".
I'd prefer the 'benefit of the doubt' going to the bloke who is making the play, rather than often rewarding the player who has been second to the ball.
-
15-09-2017, 05:15 PM
#245
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
AFL 2017 Week 2 Semi Finals
Friday September 15 at the MCG (7:50pm)
Second Semi Final: Geelong Cats v Sydney Swans
Saturday September 16 at Spotless Stadium (7:25pm)
First Semi Final: GWS Giants v West Coast
"Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
-
15-09-2017, 05:27 PM
#246
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Originally Posted by
Ozza
One thing I hate, is this notion of "Oh you've gotta reward the tackler".
I'd prefer the 'benefit of the doubt' going to the bloke who is making the play, rather than often rewarding the player who has been second to the ball.
Agree 100%.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
-
15-09-2017, 05:29 PM
#247
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Very wet here in East Melbourne, have had lightning and thunder and pelting rain. Could make a difference.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
-
15-09-2017, 08:49 PM
#248
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Ahh bummer Ling and Carey are back, have ruined Friday night footy for me this year.
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes
-
15-09-2017, 08:53 PM
#249
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Straight Sets Cats.
Make it happen Bloods.
BORDERLINE FLYING
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes
-
15-09-2017, 09:12 PM
#250
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Ling commentating Dangerfield getting soft frees. Is there anything worse?
-
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 0 Likes
-
15-09-2017, 09:13 PM
#251
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
I'd love to have a player that gets frees like Dangerfield gets. They're made up, the last I think was for diving near a contest.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
-
15-09-2017, 09:22 PM
#252
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Was under the impression the best umpires made the cut for finals.
You wouldn't know it. They're having a mare.
Stay the fhark out of the contest where your input isn't warranted.
BORDERLINE FLYING
-
15-09-2017, 09:22 PM
#253
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I'd love to have a player that gets frees like Dangerfield gets. They're made up, the last I think was for diving near a contest.
Tom Boyd would love a few. Has he got one yet?
-
15-09-2017, 09:24 PM
#254
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Was under the impression the best umpires made the cut for finals.
You wouldn't know it. They're having a mare.
Stay the fhark out of the contest where your input isn't warranted.
The dangerous tackle was embarrassing, this finals series is certainly missing something.
-
15-09-2017, 09:26 PM
#255
Re: 2017 AFL Finals
Originally Posted by
kruder
Tom Boyd would love a few. Has he got one yet?
Not a single one. Needs to be a media darling and not over paid kid....
... That was the difference in us winning a premiership for the first time in 62 years. Seems that doesn't get media, and in turn umpire cred.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023