Stringer Trade Worth

[ledge]

Try this
LISTEN | Marko thinks Jake Stringer could well still be at the Dogs in 2018. Find out why: player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=136…

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Try this
LISTEN | Marko thinks Jake Stringer could well still be at the Dogs in 2018. Find out why: player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=136…

Neither of these work for me, sorry.

[ledge]

Neither of these work for me, sorry.

Looks like it's been taken off I'm getting error 404 now.
Anyway basically the other side of the story that he could stay, so basically no journalist has a clue what's going on even though they infer they do.

[bulldogtragic]

Looks like it's been taken off I'm getting error 404 now.
Anyway basically the other side of the story that he could stay, so basically no journalist has a clue what's going on even though they infer they do.

To be fair, if you were paid to talk, write or otherwise fill 'sports news' for hours a day, you have to make stuff up to justify the 38 hours a week. I've stopped news cold turkey a few months ago and it's been great. Admittedly I get my info on here now and rely on y'all, but if you don't like current journalism (sports or all) just quit it.

[bornadog]

Looks like it's been taken off I'm getting error 404 now.
Anyway basically the other side of the story that he could stay, so basically no journalist has a clue what's going on even though they infer they do.

Try this link

[azabob]

Ledge is referring to Mark Allen and Schwartz on SEN. All of this week and some of last Stringer has been a lead talking point. Allen reckons it is just one big rouse to get Stringer to straighten up and scare him for real.

[bulldogtragic]

Ledge is referring to Mark Allen and Schwartz on SEN. All of this week and some of last Stringer has been a lead talking point. Allen reckons it is just one big rouse to get Stringer to straighten up and scare him for real.

Interesting theory.

[Sedat]

Mark Allan is a terrific authority on all things golf. He knows less than nothing about every other sport played on earth.

[Topdog]

Mark Allan is a terrific authority on all things golf. He knows less than nothing about every other sport played on earth.

Yeah and to be fair to him he doesn't claim to have inside knowledge or even to be a journalist. He talks as a fan of footy and that's all.

[Bulldog Joe]

Yeah and to be fair to him he doesn't claim to have inside knowledge or even to be a journalist. He talks as a fan of footy and that's all.

Basically a Big Footy poster with a microphone.

[Topdog]

Basically a Big Footy poster with a microphone.

Haha nah not really, he doesn't make up rubbish just gives his opinion

[LostDoggy]

I think the Bulldogs have played this one very nicely. It’s market manipulation (i.e. stock bashing) at its finest. In Bevo we trust.



Since the whispers started, the Dogs haven’t refuted them. In fact they’ve been very public with a few carefully selected facts and quite positive with the language surrounding the facts. Jake’s enduring an existential life crisis and an associated lack of professionalism towards his football. They’ve asked for him to commit to his football and the ethos of the club, and he’s fallen short on those expectations. No single player is bigger than the club. The situation isn’t irretrievable, but we’ve had a gutful and the ball is in his court.



By making their intentions to trade him public, the Dogs are effectively driving down Jake’s value for his own good. Jake might think that he’s worth $1 million a year, but in doing their due diligence, other clubs will quickly realise there’s probably a bit more to it and he’s a liability. Clubs might be willing to take on that liability, but not for a first round draft pick and certainly not for $1m per year. Sure his manager will shop him around and talk him up, but at the end of the day he’s contracted and a player of amazing potential to the aspirations of the Dogs fortunes in 2018 and beyond.



I’ve heard the “AA player, premiership player, former pick 5” arguments when it comes to his trade value, but it all means very little when you’re this on the nose (What was Ben Cousins worth in 2005 vs 2007?). If there isn’t a good offer for him, he’ll hit rock bottom and find himself unwanted both within and outside the club. If he nominates a club who then offer below expectations value, it’ll hurt his pride and the Dogs will stand up for Jake and let the football world know he’s worth more than what is being offered, restart negotiations and welcome him home with open arms.



If he stays, the Dogs will have better leverage to get the most out of him. He’s got 6 months to get back on track physically and professionally or he’ll spend the year in VFL. If he’s bitter about how this has played out, he’ll still need to address the professionalism and play some good football for the Dogs to raise his stock up again. If he plays some good football, the Dogs will offer him a contract extension. Otherwise he’ll find himself uncontracted and not worth a great deal.



In no way am I certain which way this’ll go, but It’ll take a high draft pick (I’m thinking 11 from Dons or better) to prise him away or else he stays. If he goes, we head to the draft with two first round draft picks a year after winning a flag, a strong position to be in. If he goes, we’ve off-loaded a liability and can refocus getting the culture right.

As for addressing the party culture and the players who may have thought it would just happen in 2017, this has served to act as a wake-up call. The boys would have had their exit interviews, told no individual is bigger than the club and been given clear instruction to turn up for pre-season in shape and ready to go. Libba has already come out and said he’ll start pre-season 2 weeks early. Job’s right.



Bring on the trade period!

[Ozza]

I think the Bulldogs have played this one very nicely. It’s market manipulation (i.e. stock bashing) at its finest. In Bevo we trust.



Since the whispers started, the Dogs haven’t refuted them. In fact they’ve been very public with a few carefully selected facts and quite positive with the language surrounding the facts. Jake’s enduring an existential life crisis and an associated lack of professionalism towards his football. They’ve asked for him to commit to his football and the ethos of the club, and he’s fallen short on those expectations. No single player is bigger than the club. The situation isn’t irretrievable, but we’ve had a gutful and the ball is in his court.



By making their intentions to trade him public, the Dogs are effectively driving down Jake’s value for his own good. Jake might think that he’s worth $1 million a year, but in doing their due diligence, other clubs will quickly realise there’s probably a bit more to it and he’s a liability. Clubs might be willing to take on that liability, but not for a first round draft pick and certainly not for $1m per year. Sure his manager will shop him around and talk him up, but at the end of the day he’s contracted and a player of amazing potential to the aspirations of the Dogs fortunes in 2018 and beyond.



I’ve heard the “AA player, premiership player, former pick 5” arguments when it comes to his trade value, but it all means very little when you’re this on the nose (What was Ben Cousins worth in 2005 vs 2007?). If there isn’t a good offer for him, he’ll hit rock bottom and find himself unwanted both within and outside the club. If he nominates a club who then offer below expectations value, it’ll hurt his pride and the Dogs will stand up for Jake and let the football world know he’s worth more than what is being offered, restart negotiations and welcome him home with open arms.



If he stays, the Dogs will have better leverage to get the most out of him. He’s got 6 months to get back on track physically and professionally or he’ll spend the year in VFL. If he’s bitter about how this has played out, he’ll still need to address the professionalism and play some good football for the Dogs to raise his stock up again. If he plays some good football, the Dogs will offer him a contract extension. Otherwise he’ll find himself uncontracted and not worth a great deal.



In no way am I certain which way this’ll go, but It’ll take a high draft pick (I’m thinking 11 from Dons or better) to prise him away or else he stays. If he goes, we head to the draft with two first round draft picks a year after winning a flag, a strong position to be in. If he goes, we’ve off-loaded a liability and can refocus getting the culture right.

As for addressing the party culture and the players who may have thought it would just happen in 2017, this has served to act as a wake-up call. The boys would have had their exit interviews, told no individual is bigger than the club and been given clear instruction to turn up for pre-season in shape and ready to go. Libba has already come out and said he’ll start pre-season 2 weeks early. Job’s right.



Bring on the trade period!

Solid post Giansiraccuser!!! Good to see you back on here great man!!

[hujsh]

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Pretty well reasoned there. While I understand and share the anxiety expressed you've presented an entirely plausible way (or two) that this could work out well for us.

[LostDoggy]

Thanks Ozza. I don't post much but enjoy reading the full gamut of opinions from the diehards more than ever.