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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot View Post
    Michael Talia is available?
    Even better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    If hypothetically Stringer improves them fractionally. Then it's a 6 pick upgrade this year and pick 16-18 next year. I'm not thrilled.
    It's very likely a stronger draft next year and I'm not convinced that Geelong will be a top 4 side next season.
    Points wise even if Geelong finished 4th the combined upgrade in 2017 and then the pick in 2018 would be around pick 12 in a stronger draft.
    Not ideal but something we might be able to work with if there was a player thrown into the mix.

    It might also give us better options with a 3rd club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    It's very likely a stronger draft next year and I'm not convinced that Geelong will be a top 4 side next season.
    Points wise even if Geelong finished 4th the combined upgrade in 2017 and then the pick in 2018 would be around pick 12 in a stronger draft.
    Not ideal but something we might be able to work with if there was a player thrown into the mix.

    It might also give us better options with a 3rd club.
    Would the AFEL allow them to trade out a first 3 years running though?

    After watching tonight, I'm happy to pay it more attention. A player we really want (at the level of the trade around it) would be better as you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    It's very likely a stronger draft next year and I'm not convinced that Geelong will be a top 4 side next season.
    Points wise even if Geelong finished 4th the combined upgrade in 2017 and then the pick in 2018 would be around pick 12 in a stronger draft.
    Not ideal but something we might be able to work with if there was a player thrown into the mix.

    It might also give us better options with a 3rd club.
    That's all mechanically pragmatic but does the club have other emotive external factors that may unduly influence their deliberations?

    The noise around Jake's departure has a similar gravity to it as Griffen's departure with all of the media hyperbole around it.
    Will the club feel compelled to act in a way that seeks to attenuate the possible fan/media fallout, or will pragmatism rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot View Post
    That's all mechanically pragmatic but does the club have other emotive external factors that may unduly influence their deliberations?

    The noise around Jake's departure has a similar gravity to it as Griffen's departure with all of the media hyperbole around it.
    Will the club feel compelled to act in a way that seeks to attenuate the possible fan/media fallout, or will pragmatism rule?
    Your point is well made, it could very well be a bit of this and that. Ideally we get something now to offset the enormity of the departure rather than playing the long game and focus on the future.
    12 months ago after 2 flags we were staring at strong few years ahead of us so it will be hard for some to accept we may have to take a hit before we improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Your point is well made, it could very well be a bit of this and that. Ideally we get something now to offset the enormity of the departure rather than playing the long game and focus on the future.
    12 months ago after 2 flags we were staring at strong few years ahead of us so it will be hard for some to accept we may have to take a hit before we improve.
    I wonder whether some pressure could be removed by going to Bont's management now and getting a long term deal worked out. This would serve the dual purpose of removing any ensuing media narrative and speculation as to our trajectory and would also make a pragmatic trade along the lines as you've proposed more justifiable to those Dogs supporters riled by Jake's leaving.

    As Bulldogtragic has accounted, we have big salary coin available in our pocket, and the trade targets that might warrant that surplus is rapidly diminishing.
    We could do worse than use it on some key long term re-signings like Bont, Macrae, Daniel etc..
    That could make a powerful statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    I get they were fed up well before then, but why would the club give two shits about a player getting tattooed?
    MaCartney went berserk when Sherman showed up at preseason with a great big tattoo across his chest. It was a hot day and he had his shirt off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc26 View Post
    That looks like something to work with.

    There are no certainties that Geelong will be at the pointy end next season. They are losing a fair bit of experience in their backline again with Lonergan and Mackie retiring. Motlop a possibility to depart, and there are other Teams on the rise that will challenge for their position. It's certainly not all upside for them. And they will be at the tough end of the fixturing. Hey, and the BT thread alone that tracks the likelihood of our pick from them throughout the season will be well worth it.
    It might well be worth taking the gamble on Geelong's ladder position next year. But they always seem to uncover just as many players as thet need in the positions they need.

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    MaCartney went berserk when Sherman showed up at preseason with a great big tattoo across his chest. It was a hot day and he had his shirt off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    It might well be worth taking the gamble on Geelong's ladder position next year. But they always seem to uncover just as many players as thet need in the positions they need.
    That's largely because they've been topping up on short to medium term solutions in the form of mature reinforcements.

    That'll catch up with them, imo.

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    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...8ffccad70da05c

    JAKE Stringer has ruled out making up with the Western Bulldogs and is confident he can get to Geelong despite its lack of early draft picks.

    Stringer remains baffled by the Dogs’ decision to move him on and will eventually state a single club to which he wants to be traded.

    Senior Bulldogs, including retiring captain Bob Murphy and Dale Morris, have this week stated they believe the relationship can be patched up.

    But Stringer has quickly moved on mentally and will under no circumstances attempt to make up with the club and return there next season.

    It has been made clear there is no way back for either party, with Stringer quickly turning his focus to slotting into another club with premiership hopes.

    Geelong’s first pick is No.20, significantly inferior to Essendon’s pick 11, which could make a trade harder to arrange should he choose the Cats.

    Stringer has spoken to Essendon and will soon discuss his future with Geelong, which is at the front of the queue to acquire him.

    But his management is confident Geelong would be able to secure a deal that will satisfy the Dogs despite their lesser starting point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    MaCartney went berserk when Sherman showed up at preseason with a great big tattoo across his chest. It was a hot day and he had his shirt off.
    I'm presuming it's because of the risk of infection with Jake.
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    J-Mac spotted in Adelaide yesterday. You would think he was more than likely having a look at someone from Geelong to see if we can add them to their first pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...8ffccad70da05c

    JAKE Stringer has ruled out making up with the Western Bulldogs and is confident he can get to Geelong despite its lack of early draft picks.

    Stringer remains baffled by the Dogs’ decision to move him on and will eventually state a single club to which he wants to be traded.

    Senior Bulldogs, including retiring captain Bob Murphy and Dale Morris, have this week stated they believe the relationship can be patched up.

    But Stringer has quickly moved on mentally and will under no circumstances attempt to make up with the club and return there next season.

    It has been made clear there is no way back for either party, with Stringer quickly turning his focus to slotting into another club with premiership hopes.

    Geelong’s first pick is No.20, significantly inferior to Essendon’s pick 11, which could make a trade harder to arrange should he choose the Cats.

    Stringer has spoken to Essendon and will soon discuss his future with Geelong, which is at the front of the queue to acquire him.

    But his management is confident Geelong would be able to secure a deal that will satisfy the Dogs despite their lesser starting point.
    Who wrote this ?
    Where does Stringer or his management state their is no way back , seems a repeat article written in another way about 30 times now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...8ffccad70da05c

    JAKE Stringer has ruled out making up with the Western Bulldogs and is confident he can get to Geelong despite its lack of early draft picks.

    Stringer remains baffled by the Dogs’ decision to move him on and will eventually state a single club to which he wants to be traded.

    Senior Bulldogs, including retiring captain Bob Murphy and Dale Morris, have this week stated they believe the relationship can be patched up.

    But Stringer has quickly moved on mentally and will under no circumstances attempt to make up with the club and return there next season.

    It has been made clear there is no way back for either party, with Stringer quickly turning his focus to slotting into another club with premiership hopes.

    Geelong’s first pick is No.20, significantly inferior to Essendon’s pick 11, which could make a trade harder to arrange should he choose the Cats.

    Stringer has spoken to Essendon and will soon discuss his future with Geelong, which is at the front of the queue to acquire him.

    But his management is confident Geelong would be able to secure a deal that will satisfy the Dogs despite their lesser starting point.
    Cool. If true, Stringer can have a gap year. That's fine.
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    Cooney puts his bib in again and now saying Stanley and a second rounder should do it for Stringer. Just finished tweeting him telling him politely that he is dreaming.

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