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07-10-2017, 12:05 AM
#151
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
Stringer is worth at least twice what Francis is, so will be interesting to see where the chips fall. Certainly gives us a good indicator of value to use as a point of reference.
Based on the way he is valuing Stringer at around pick 28, Francis should be going for a pick in the 50's if not later which of course Dodoro wouldn't allow.
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07-10-2017, 12:08 AM
#152
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Based on the way he is valuing Stringer at around pick 28, Francis should be going for a pick in the 50's if not later which of course Dodoro wouldn't allow.
He'll value Francis as a top 20 selection (as would I if the shoe was on the other foot) so bless Aaron, he's improved our position significantly.
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07-10-2017, 12:19 AM
#153
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
He'll value Francis as a top 20 selection (as would I if the shoe was on the other foot) so bless Aaron, he's improved our position significantly.
I think he has. Dodoro will have a hard time convincing people that Francis is worth anything near Stringer let alone be worth more than him.
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08-10-2017, 10:30 AM
#154
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Hogan to Fremantle is gaining a lot of momentum today. He is apparently meeting with Fyfe and Lyon and not overly happy with the way Jack Watts is being shopped around.
If true it opens up some possibilities for clubs to get involved.
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08-10-2017, 10:36 AM
#155
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Hogan to Fremantle is gaining a lot of momentum today. He is apparently meeting with Fyfe and Lyon and not overly happy with the way Jack Watts is being shopped around.
If true it opens up some possibilities for clubs to get involved.
Are we at a point now where players run the league?
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08-10-2017, 10:39 AM
#156
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Hogan to Fremantle is gaining a lot of momentum today. He is apparently meeting with Fyfe and Lyon and not overly happy with the way Jack Watts is being shopped around.
If true it opens up some possibilities for clubs to get involved.
Wow, Hogan, Wilson & Matera. They're going to be stretched to pull all that off, if true.
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08-10-2017, 10:39 AM
#157
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
Are we at a point now where players run the league?
For clubs contracts don't mean much once players decide they want to leave and player managers are great at spinning out reasons to the media why the clubs should help the player along.
It's certainly getting that way and I feel that it needs to be fairer for the clubs.
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08-10-2017, 10:57 AM
#158
Re: Other clubs trade activity
There's been murmurings about Hogan for a few years now,and he might get back on compassionate grounds .
I'll be interested how Melbourne handle this, and thinking freo will need to give pick 5 and a future pick .
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08-10-2017, 11:31 AM
#159
Re: Other clubs trade activity
I was told a few weeks ago that a well known Melbourne player let slip at a local footy GF (after a few cans) that Hogan was going back to WA this year. Took it with a grain of salt at the time (and still do) but maybe there is something to it.
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08-10-2017, 12:05 PM
#160
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
For clubs contracts don't mean much once players decide they want to leave and player managers are great at spinning out reasons to the media why the clubs should help the player along.
It's certainly getting that way and I feel that it needs to be fairer for the clubs.
It's a lot like the EPL you have them contracted as insurance to get a better deal when trading them . That's what it comes down to.
It's kind of protection for the player and the club . The player will get offered overs and so will the club to get him out.
Bring back the biff
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08-10-2017, 12:09 PM
#161
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Maybe it's time we followed other sports and players should get traded to who ever the clubs want, not who the players want.
Players would probably sook and strike though.
The curse is dead.
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08-10-2017, 12:25 PM
#162
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
chef
Maybe it's time we followed other sports and players should get traded to who ever the clubs want, not who the players want.
Players would probably sook and strike though.
There is basically 2 clubs in each state so from my perspective players shouldn't be able to nominate clubs to be traded to.
If they want to go home then the club should be able to trade with the club that has the best deal on offer from that state.
If a player wants the security of contracts but then wants to break them then they must lose a bit of control and given something back to the club who has that contract in place.
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08-10-2017, 04:29 PM
#163
Re: Other clubs trade activity
We seemingly started all this breaking contracts business when we got Tommy Boyd. The reasons given like homesick, or my father is dying are all bullshit.
The AFL has to be careful the trend of breaking contracts doesn't become an excuse for a free for all like the EPL. Thank god there is still a salary cap.
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08-10-2017, 04:31 PM
#164
Re: Other clubs trade activity
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We seemingly started all this breaking contracts business when we got Tommy Boyd. The reasons given like homesick, or my father is dying are all bullshit.
The AFL has to be careful the trend of breaking contracts doesn't become an excuse for a free for all like the EPL. Thank god there is still a salary cap.
I'd argue GWS started it with Gryphone breaking his contract earlier.
Hogan apparently staying at Melbourne according to Hogan this arvo.
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08-10-2017, 04:51 PM
#165
Re: Other clubs trade activity
It has to be two-way. If players can nominate clubs, then clubs should be able to trade them wherever they like. If a player is good enough/happy to sacrifice something else in their contract than they can opt for a no trade clause.