Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

[bulldogtragic]

Don't forget 2nd rounder 2018.

I don't mind that knowing that we were effectively doing a draft points trade to get Schache without losing a player. So we need to work on some points potentially next year, but we have Jong at the club still.

[Remi Moses]

If it is 25 & 40 for Schache - then plenty of people here - including myself, can retract some earlier negatives I think.

Schache, Trengove, Crozier and into the draft with 9 & 16 in a draft where there isn't expected to be a great deal of talent - is probably not as awful a position as we thought we were in 20 minutes ago.

2nd round next year still hurts. Hope Schache can play.

Gotta get that second rounder back, but I'm reasonably pleased .

[Ozza]

2nd Rounder still burns, the whole Stringer/Ess/Car deal was awful, just awful. Having said that we did very well in the Shache deal and saved ourselves and embarrassing off-season. Not happy but can live with it

I guess the Schache and Stringer deals reflect the current climate around player movement. If a player wants out, or a club wants to move a player out - the balance of a trade is thrown way out of whack.

[jeemak]

2nd Rounder still burns, the whole Stringer/Ess/Car deal was awful, just awful. Having said that we did very well in the Shache deal and saved ourselves and embarrassing off-season. Not happy but can live with it

But, without going through that pain it's difficult to see how we could have ended up with our final position. That's the problem with looking at the trade period as individual negotiations that all need winning.

[bulldogtragic]

Is this the first time in our clubs history, our full forward went Pick 1 and our CHF went pick 2

[Mantis]

I'm bullish on Schache, he didn't want to be there this year and it showed with his output... but he has some traits that I like, he can kick and he can mark.

Think we will look back at this trade and be happy with it in a few years time and if you look what we had to give up to get a highly rated tall forward in Tom Boyd to the club, this looks a steal.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Lions fans are fuming - good sign.

[EasternWest]

I'm bullish on Schache, he didn't want to be there this year and it showed with his output... but he has some traits that I like, he can kick and he can mark.

Think we will look back at this trade and be happy with it in a few years time and if you look what we had to give up to get a highly rated tall forward in Tom Boyd to the club, this looks a steal.

Agree entirely. I honestly didn't think we'd be seriously in the hunt for him, but now he's ours I reckon his upside is huge and I'm excited by it.

[bulldogtragic]

Agree entirely. I honestly didn't think we'd be seriously in the hunt for him, but now he's ours I reckon his upside is huge and I'm excited by it.

If our kids can kick it into he and Boyd, maybe Cloke too (losing Stringer & Crameri) then we might just be able to kick near 100 points a game.

[G-Mo77]

But, without going through that pain it's difficult to see how we could have ended up with our final position. That's the problem with looking at the trade period as individual negotiations that all need winning.

Look if that 2018 2nd wasn't included I would have been very happy overall. We've now got to get back in there now somehow. Hopefully doesn't hurt us in getting West.

[Topdog]

25&40 i can certainly live with

[Ozza]

I'm bullish on Schache, he didn't want to be there this year and it showed with his output... but he has some traits that I like, he can kick and he can mark.

Think we will look back at this trade and be happy with it in a few years time and if you look what we had to give up to get a highly rated tall forward in Tom Boyd to the club, this looks a steal.

I tend to agree that he is better than being given credit for. Played in the worst side in the comp as a forward, and was still 19 at the time of his last game.

What worries me is structure-wise potentially having him and Tom Boyd - 2 x 200cm forwards who don't apply pressure. It probably means that Boyd is more ruck than forward.

[Jam Donuts]

Schache is ours pick 25 and 40

[LostDoggy]

Finally the club is in remission. We really should be celebrating that the entire Stringer camp has been cut out and we can begin to heal. Who cares that Essendon got him cheap, a short term win for them but more importantly a long term win for us.

[Mofra]

I was against Schache until I read the Brisbane Lions board on BF a few days ago.

Given any tall we take this year will take years and Schache at least has a huge tank for a KPF he's likely to be better than any potential pick 25 we would have picked up