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19-10-2017, 04:11 PM
#271
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
WBFC4FFC
Can Schache play down back? Might be a way to ease him into the side and create more depth down there.
I hear Young is considered a future forward but given his age, they thought it best to play him down back until he develops a bigger frame!
Was thinking the same thing just earlier - once the relief kicked in. Jake simply didn't have the smarts to play down there. Good development for a young key forward to be swung down back. I remember a year at CHB was the making of Granty back in the day ('95 from memory.) certainly nice to have the option.
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19-10-2017, 04:14 PM
#272
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
I'm not bitter and twisted but I would feel profoundly satisfied if Essendon's Jake Stringer is a poisoned chalice.
Now that would make this trading period a major success. We may not need Jake to be a millstone at Essendon for it to be so, with Schache joining us as well as Crozier and Trengove.
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19-10-2017, 04:19 PM
#273
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Hey no giving up Jong either. I like to think Brisbane asked for him and we said "no way".
That’s where the lateral thinking to trade our 2018 second for pick 40 was good. Not the giving up so much, but the extra points made it a solid draft points trade, which they then used in another strategic trade of picks with Richmond. But for us it sealed Schache & Jong stayed. Was a good move.
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19-10-2017, 04:21 PM
#274
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
Mantis
I'm bullish on Schache, he didn't want to be there this year and it showed with his output... but he has some traits that I like, he can kick and he can mark.
Think we will look back at this trade and be happy with it in a few years time and if you look what we had to give up to get a highly rated tall forward in Tom Boyd to the club, this looks a steal.
If he is over the homesick factor we have got a bargain. He's already had 27 games of senior football and will get a lot better with us. The added advantage it now means we can go into games with just one ruckman and potentially 3 players who can support. No more Bonts contesting centre square contests.
Schache will be a great addition.
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19-10-2017, 04:28 PM
#275
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
If he is over the homesick factor we have got a bargain. He's already had 27 games of senior football and will get a lot better with us. The added advantage it now means we can go into games with just one ruckman and potentially 3 players who can support. No more Bonts contesting centre square contests.
Schache will be a great addition.
Exactly. The team dynamic and make up will be good. Roughy/TC/English on form solo with a couple of minutes from Boyd/Schache/Tengove will mean only one primary ruck. Probably saves us rookie drafting one. And Boyd should get more time to develop as a KPF. Good things.
An article just posted quoted that they see Roughy rucking, and Boyd & Shaq as a forward talent combo who can help.
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19-10-2017, 04:36 PM
#276
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Redpath will really have some competition now.
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19-10-2017, 04:39 PM
#277
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Very happy with this. Gives us a lot of options. One issue remains. How do I pronounce his name?
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19-10-2017, 04:42 PM
#278
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Very happy with this. Gives us a lot of options. One issue remains. How do I pronounce his name?
We need to check with Chef
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19-10-2017, 04:45 PM
#279
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Very happy with this. Gives us a lot of options. One issue remains. How do I pronounce his name?
Shack-e.
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19-10-2017, 04:57 PM
#280
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
So our 2015 draftees are:
2. Schache
25. Dunkley
26. Collins
35. Adams
48. Williams
Dunkley, Williams and Adams in our top 22. Just need Collins and Schache to develop and this draft will have produced 5 long term prospects.
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19-10-2017, 05:06 PM
#281
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Interesting how this has played out. We're forced to lose a dynamic forward in Jake, very cheaply based on significant character flaws and as a result only one suitor (the creeps) in the market . And then we pick up a highly touted key forward, very cheaply based on questionable character traits (of course very different to Jake's), with us the only legitimate suitor. Let's call it a draw.
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19-10-2017, 05:16 PM
#282
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
Doc26
Interesting how this has played out. We're forced to lose a dynamic forward in Jake, very cheaply based on significant character flaws and as a result only one suitor (the creeps) in the market . And then we pick up a highly touted key forward, very cheaply based on questionable character traits (of course very different to Jake's), with us the only legitimate suitor. Let's call it a draw.
Difference being that one's got honest issues, whereas the other has dishonest, dishonourable issues!
Call it a win!!
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19-10-2017, 05:26 PM
#283
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
IT TOOK until the final 30 seconds of the trade period for a dramatic deal taking talented forward Josh Schache to the Western Bulldogs to be lodged with the AFL.
Schache’s future hung in the balance throughout the entire trade period, with the 20-year-old’s move to the Dogs not sealed until a chaotic final few seconds of the window.
The Bulldogs were made to wait until a move taking Jake Stringer to Essendon had been completed before pouncing on Schache, initially offering Pick 25 for the Brisbane youngster.
When that was rejected, it appeared as though Schache’s hopes of a return home had fallen flat.
However, the Western Bulldogs soon renewed its efforts with an offer of Picks 25 and 40, which was enough to force Brisbane’s hand and accept the club’s bulked-up bid.
Cccording to Lions footy boss David Noble, the paperwork wasn’t lodged with the AFL until just seconds before the trade period’s deadline came to a close.
“It was about 30 seconds away,” Noble said.
“It was pretty close. Sometimes you just have to persist and hang in there.
“We all have different elements of what we think is fair and equal value. You have to wait for some other pieces to fall.
“I think if you look at the points value, it works out to be about Pick 12 or 13. It’s in that market place. We also moved back into the first round, with Richmond’s Pick 15.
“It’s not always just about where the pick is, it’s what you can do with it. And it’s your strategy overall with what the trade and draft period looks like.
“For us, this is year two of our three-year strategy.”
Schache was drafted to Brisbane with Pick 2 just two years ago, but his value plummeted due to a series of form slumps and a request to return home to Victoria.
However, the Bulldogs remain confident the young forward can return to the type of form that saw him become one of his draft crop’s best players and saw him claim the Larke Medal.
“We see the glass half full,” Western Bulldogs footy boss Chris Grant said.
“That’s the approach we’re taking with Josh. He’s a young player. He’s got some work to do in his game, but we really think we can help his development and also with some off-field support.
“The positives far outweigh what the concerns might be as a young, developing player.”
The Bulldogs will pair Schache with former top draft pick Tom Boyd inside 50, having also completed a blockbuster trade to secure his signature from the Giants at the end of 2014.
“It’s all about talent,” Grant said.
“Both of those boys are talented players. It doesn’t matter if you’re 5ft4 or 6ft7, if you can play the game then you’re a real asset to the team.
“We see a great combination between both of those players.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...cc35628d3b53bc
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19-10-2017, 08:05 PM
#284
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Anyone know the contract details?
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19-10-2017, 08:14 PM
#285
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache
Originally Posted by
kruder
Anyone know the contract details?
The Hun reported his deal with Brisbane when he resigned was two years at $300k p.a. plus up to $150k p.a. in performance pay. That might be a guide.