Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

[Twodogs]

I would agree that he appears to lack intensity and purpose.
But often it is lack of confidence that manifests itself as appearing to lack intensity. I think once Schache feels at home in the side, his growing confidence will turn that around.

That's the plan. It's gotta work eventually. It did with Peter Foster in 1983.


I think Josh will be a good player, a handy Daniel Bradshaw type. Not the main man, hopefully that will be Tom Boyd if we don't break him first.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

In another dull day, Schache is showing signs. Had a good third qtr, competed better and unlucky not to kick 1-2 goals. He’s an excellent kick, thought his movements and leading was much better in that quarter but we burned him a few times. Particularly Williams, who blazed away.

Hopefully he can have a good second half of the year

[ledge]

Schache is a gun, he can't do anything if you don't look for him.
Its time Bevo stopped pissing around with him and Boyd and start using them as forwards and bring in a ruckman!

[Mantis]

Schache is a gun, he can't do anything if you don't look for him.
Its time Bevo stopped pissing around with him and Boyd and start using them as forwards and bring in a ruckman!

A gun? Really?

He’s absolutely miles away from being a component AFL player.

[SlimPickens]

A gun? Really?

He’s absolutely miles away from being a component AFL player.

Think you mean he has plenty of development to go. Thought he moved well today and often found himself with room to lead in to. Much better than his first game for the club and will be better once his team mates look for him.

[Mantis]

Think you mean he has plenty of development to go. Thought he moved well today and often found himself with room to lead in to. Much better than his first game for the club and will be better at nice his team mates look for him.

No doubt, but seriously needs to learn to play his part defensively... he is just a witches hat at present.

[Bulldog4life]

A gun? Really?

He’s absolutely miles away from being a component AFL player.

Agree 100%

[SlimPickens]

No doubt, but seriously needs to learn to play his part defensively... he is just a witches hat at present.

Yes, but I thought that was once again better this week than last.

[ledge]

Only because we put it nowhere near him !
He is a very accurate kick and the way the game is umpired today if we used him properly he would kick a lot of goals.
Put 2 talls in our forward line get them to lead in opposite directions and have a crumber underneath, also
Play a proper ruckman would be a good start.
At the moment even if we have one tall everyone goes to the same spot !

[SonofScray]

Got some way to go but the tools are there and I trust him with the footy to do his job. We need to get him more easy ball and cash in. Hopefully he gets his tail up and starts winning plenty of the footy himself leading up to it, but for now get out the back and get it in in his hands.

[josie]

I like what he has offered so far and am hoping he becomes more defensive with encouragement from coaches. I think he is a smart player too. Agree Boyd should play more in forward 50 at same time.

[bulldogtragic]

Leaving the finer details aside, and extra we got in the actual trade, these are the season averages for Schache (former pick 2) vs Stringer (former pick 5):

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&fid1=S&fid2=S

There's nothing of significance really to split their 2018 season averages, except maybe love handles, and the ceiling on Schache is higher from where he is now (being 3 years younger, and 70 games less experience). This alone puts the specific Schache-Stringer list movement as at least neutral, if not positive our way, plus the help to get Richards.

[Go_Dogs]

Not sure how you can say there isn't much separating their 2018 stats. Jake has clearly had a more impactful year than Josh, although he hasn't reached the heights he did with us during the 2015/16 seasons.

That being said, Sausages Schache has really found his feet throughout the second half of the season and has significant upside. I don't think we have any concerns about the trade, but both us and Essendon would be happy with the returns to date (of those respective trades).

[bulldogtragic]

Not sure how you can say there isn't much separating their 2018 stats. Jake has clearly had a more impactful year than Josh, although he hasn't reached the heights he did with us during the 2015/16 seasons.

That being said, Sausages Schache has really found his feet throughout the second half of the season and has significant upside. I don't think we have any concerns about the trade, but both us and Essendon would be happy with the returns to date (of those respective trades).

No doubt both clubs are happy. But what in their statistical averages is 'significantly' different? They seem to virtually the same to me, less some midfield numbers of course.

[Twodogs]

Not sure how you can say there isn't much separating their 2018 stats. Jake has clearly had a more impactful year than Josh, although he hasn't reached the heights he did with us during the 2015/16 seasons.

That being said, Sausages Schache has really found his feet throughout the second half of the season and has significant upside. I don't think we have any concerns about the trade, but both us and Essendon would be happy with the returns to date (of those respective trades).

Yep, you trade to improve your team, not to win the trade. And that seems to be what both clubs have done.