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01-06-2018, 04:05 PM
#166
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bornadog
If we think Guthrie is better than Dahl, why would Geelong want to do a swap?
Because they might think Dahl is better than Guthrie.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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01-06-2018, 04:06 PM
#167
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bornadog
If we think Guthrie is better than Dahl, why would Geelong want to do a swap?
They probably don't but it's all about needs. Geelong regularly get smashed in the clearances, maybe they see Dahl as someone who will get in and get his hands dirty while all their superstars are sitting back waiting for an easy ball. Guthrie can't get much of a run in the middle there so they obviously rate him below many others.
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01-06-2018, 04:59 PM
#168
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Because they might think Dahl is better than Guthrie.
What do you think?
I prefer Dahl.
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02-06-2018, 12:25 AM
#169
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Have read that Stevo tweeted that Wallis is probably leaving. Will take a lot to change that.
Falling out with Bevo?
What are we likely to get in a compo pick?
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02-06-2018, 08:00 AM
#170
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Dry Rot
Have read that Stevo tweeted that Wallis is probably leaving. Will take a lot to change that.
Falling out with Bevo?
What are we likely to get in a compo pick?
A lot is involved to say with certainty. My guess, at very best case a second rounder at our natural selection (which is now Carltons), so circa pick 24.
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02-06-2018, 09:47 AM
#171
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
A lot is involved to say with certainty. My guess, at very best case a second rounder at our natural selection (which is now Carltons), so circa pick 24.
Could it be more like a Veszpremi for Everitt type trade than a draft pick? I'd say any compensation would be more in the 3rd round.
I'd prefer to keep Wally but not if Bevo can't find a spot for him
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02-06-2018, 10:11 AM
#172
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Could it be more like a Veszpremi for Everitt type trade than a draft pick? I'd say any compensation would be more in the 3rd round.
I'd prefer to keep Wally but not if Bevo can't find a spot for him
It will be harder for Wally next year with Libba back and if we get young Westy. Personally I hope we keep the son of a gun.
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02-06-2018, 05:59 PM
#173
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Ok revised list analysis:
Players we keep:
Suckling, Young, Bontempelli, Dunkley, Hunter, Trengove, Wood, Macrae, Cordy, Schache, McLean, Boyd, Richards, Liberatore, Lipinski, Naughton, Williams, Daniel, JJ, English
Players we keep but have question marks over future beyond 2019
Crozier, Adams, Gowers, Porter, Dale,
Players who may not be with us next season
Wallis - Coach doesn't rate him. Surely looks for a fa move.
Dahlhaus - Coach rates him. Is a liability this year. Potentially looks for a fa move but we will get nothing
Roughead - His best is mediocre now. Potentially stays as the depth ruck if he agrees to a cheap enough contract. Surely we aren't rushing to sign him up.
Biggs - Dropped off the face of the earth. If he cant imrpove his form enough to get a spot in a bottom four side then he is easy delist material.
Dickson - Injury prone. Struggles to have much of an impact when playing.
Morris - This is his last year. We have at leas 4 young talls that need to play ahead of him. I love him but its time.
Redpath - Club rates him but he is always injured and borderline best 22 when not.
Jong - Constantly on the verge of being a good player, but instead remains in the Jarrad Grant zone of promising so much but failing to deliver much more than a 6/10 performance.
Players who to this moment have given us no reason to retain them for another year
C. Smith - Always injured and when not just enhances our weaknesses. Has to go.
Campbell - We aren't gonna use him so why keep him.
Roberts - See Campbell, except with abut 10 guys ahead of him.
Webb - Still doesn't have a spot or shown anything at AFL level for years. I think he could still make it but not with us. Honeychurch - I guarantee he is on our list next year, but he is terrible.
Greene - If he can't get a game in a side crying out for clean efficient forwards then he can go.
Collins - Is about 5th or 6th in line in a stacked position.
Lynch - Hasn't got close to being picked in 3 years. Cut him.
R. Smith - Mediocre at best and injury prone.
NMM - Hasn't come close.
Picken - Can't believe we are even trying to get him back. Just retire him for his own sake. There is no gain for anyone trying to get him back in the side.
Thats an incredible 19 players who's immediate future with us could be short term. It's going to be a huge off-season.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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02-06-2018, 05:59 PM
#174
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Tom Boyd trade bait at the end of the season?
Sadly hes just not going to make it with us and maybe time to cash in while he still has value.
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02-06-2018, 06:06 PM
#175
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
chef
Tom Boyd trade bait at the end of the season?
Sadly hes just not going to make it with us and maybe time to cash in while he still has value.
His wage would put other clubs off
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02-06-2018, 06:09 PM
#176
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
His wage would put other clubs off
Thats the worry. We have another 3 years of this coming up.
The curse is dead.
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02-06-2018, 06:14 PM
#177
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
chef
Thats the worry. We have another 3 years of this coming up.
He is still only 22 years old, he has improvement left in him. Today was his worse game that I have seen.
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02-06-2018, 06:20 PM
#178
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bornadog
He is still only 22 years old, he has improvement left in him. Today was his worse game that I have seen.
Im not sure about the improvement as hes been playing at this consistent level for pretty much all of his career.
Thank god we got those two special games out of him or this would be the greatest trade *!*!*!*! up ever.
The curse is dead.
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02-06-2018, 07:14 PM
#179
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Im hoping Boyd retires. I just can't stand the sight of him anymore. Is a liability more often than not but not the lone ranger there.
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02-06-2018, 07:14 PM
#180
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
I've missed the game today. Was Tom played at full forward with good disposal to him, and dropped marks and missed goals. Or was he played out of position on Gawn in a blood bath?
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