The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

[Twodogs]

Don't believe what you read in the paper, Bulldogtragic will make our decision and he is of course working through the challenges of the Tom Boyd contract and seeing what we can put in front of the Bont before we consider Gaff.

This. I'm expecting BT to sign the Bont up long term before he turns to anything else.

[josie]

What would we get for Wallis? Wet tonight which should suit slow players. IMO has been poor.

[bornadog]

What would we get for Wallis? Wet tonight which should suit slow players. IMO has been poor.

I thought Wallis was ok, laid 10 tackles and ended up with 20 disposals, was on the bottom of the pack pushing the ball out.

[bulldogtragic]

Time to turn this top-up senior players from else refresh into a rebuild. We've not cut hard enough for a while now, so now there's a problem by not managing the outgoing players process effectively.

As good as gone: Campbell, Honeychurch, Roberts, Collins (only if is body proves incapable tof the rigours of AFEL) (3-4)

Retired: Morris, Clay Smith, Picken (3)

Tradable/lose to FA-able: Dahl, Wallis, Roughy (3)

Rookies: All bar Gowers must be under scrutiny

[G-Mo77]

Problem with that now BT is we've already created a mess of a list, our list is far to young and missing mid agers and vets already, we cut deep and it even becomes more messier. Dahl, Wallis and Roughie will be all with us next year, I'd be willing to put money on that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moz go on again as well. The others you listed, yeah probably gone.

I'm not going to sit through another season of beating our chests saying we're the youngest team in the comp. I'm sick of hearing it, sick of it being used as a positive to cover up our inability to manage an AFL list.

[bornadog]

Problem with that now BT is we've already created a mess of a list, our list is far to young and missing mid agers and vets already, we cut deep and it even becomes more messier. Dahl, Wallis and Roughie will be all with us next year, I'd be willing to put money on that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moz go on again as well. The others you listed, yeah probably gone.

I'm not going to sit through another season of beating our chests saying we're the youngest team in the comp. I'm sick of hearing it, sick of it being used as a positive to cover up our inability to manage an AFL list.

Agree with this, we need our experienced players to stay. I would like to see us recruit someone like a Josh Kelly to supplement our midfield. We need some speed in the midfield, and probably an Eddie Betts type to kick plenty of goals.

By the end of the year, the young players will have plenty more games up their sleeve, and the players from the premiership year will all be in the 100 plus game bracket.

[bulldogtragic]

Problem with that now BT is we've already created a mess of a list, our list is far to young and missing mid agers and vets already, we cut deep and it even becomes more messier. Dahl, Wallis and Roughie will be all with us next year, I'd be willing to put money on that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moz go on again as well. The others you listed, yeah probably gone.

I'm not going to sit through another season of beating our chests saying we're the youngest team in the comp. I'm sick of hearing it, sick of it being used as a positive to cover up our inability to manage an AFL list.

There's a fair amount of that I agree with. Sam Power has been left a big job. We might do well to target good free agents to cover the losses. At some point we need to cut deep. The longer we leave it, the worse it will get.

[LostDoggy]

Problem with that now BT is we've already created a mess of a list, our list is far to young and missing mid agers and vets already, we cut deep and it even becomes more messier. Dahl, Wallis and Roughie will be all with us next year, I'd be willing to put money on that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moz go on again as well. The others you listed, yeah probably gone.

I'm not going to sit through another season of beating our chests saying we're the youngest team in the comp. I'm sick of hearing it, sick of it being used as a positive to cover up our inability to manage an AFL list.

I think what BT is suggesting is trading/delisting out a few who don't fit our squad (or who haven't quite lived up to expecations) and trading in some experienced players who can balance our list out (as well take 3-4 kids at the draft). There's no way we'd be taking a massive amount of picks to the draft.

Besides, our list isn't exceptionally young. The teams we have been fielding this year have been, because a lot of our senior players have been injured.

[Sedat]

Besides, our list isn't exceptionally young. The teams we have been fielding this year have been, because a lot of our senior players have been injured.

Or we have too many of the same type and the list is unbalanced.

[bulldogtragic]

Or we have too many of the same type and the list is unbalanced.

Which makes some of the two year deals to recontract them still look puzzling.

[Sedat]

Which makes some of the two year deals to recontract them still look puzzling.

Agree 100%

[jeemak]

How do people feel about Marc Murphy? Given our age profile and need for some more run and carry through the middle, do we think that he might offer some value to us as an unrestricted free agent? He's turning 30 this year, so would be in the genuinely late stages of his career should we challenge in the next 2-3 years.

[Greystache]

How do people feel about Marc Murphy? Given our age profile and need for some more run and carry through the middle, do we think that he might offer some value to us as an unrestricted free agent? He's turning 30 this year, so would be in the genuinely late stages of his career should we challenge in the next 2-3 years.

He'd be a good pick up as cream if we think the cake is good enough. I'm not convinced it is and bringing in a player like that when you're not quite there can hurt the upward trajectory, but If Bevo thinks we're in the window I'd back his judgement and try to make the deal.

[Twodogs]

Murphy would be a good pickup if we are in the window. I'm not convinced we are but then I didn't think we would win a flag in 2016 either.

[Mofra]

Quality person - knew people who played cricket with him and they could not speak highly enough of him, even when he was a late teenager.
Not sure he leaves Carlton though. They don't want to end up like Melbourne in the Neeld years when they shipped of Joel McDonald then had no leaders as they tried to develop their kids.