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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Fair enough on Webb but I don't think anyone expected Greene or Lipinski to have developed into midfielders at this early stage. Neither were natural midfielders when drafted, although they could develop into midfielders in time.
    So we decided to not draft midfielders in the last 3 drafts
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    So we decided to not draft midfielders in the last 3 drafts
    Dunkley is sort of a midfielder sometimes? Porter? That's about it. We need midfielders galore at the next draft. At least that's generally the easiest type of player to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Dunkley is sort of a midfielder sometimes? Porter? That's about it. We need midfielders galore at the next draft. At least that's generally the easiest type of player to find.

    But we need mids who cankickthebloodyball. They don't grow on trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    With Libba out currently we have been exposed a bit. Guys like Webb, Lipinski, Greene are not developing quick enough. These guys were meant to be future mids.
    Lipinski and Greene were drafted as mid-sized forwards - they aren't ready for any extended time in the middle, especially at AFL level. Also a bit harsh on players who were only drafted 18 months ago and who both suffered extended injury lay-offs in their only season to date.

    Webb is simply not an inside mid, or at least not at AFL level. We definitely need reinforcements in that area of the ground.
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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    At least we have first dibs on one of the best in and under midfielders in this draft; Rhylee West. By all accounts a good user too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutsPeanuts View Post
    At least we have first dibs on one of the best in and under midfielders in this draft; Rhylee West. By all accounts a good user too.
    I haven't seen him play, but let's hope he has more pace than his old man.
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    I’d settle for him just having a more penetrating kick than his old man. But an additional yard of pace would be handy... or are we now just getting greeedy!?

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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Dunkley is sort of a midfielder sometimes? Porter? That's about it. We need midfielders galore at the next draft. At least that's generally the easiest type of player to find.
    We have a dearth of midfielders right now, especially considering guys who were drafted as mids are playing elsewhere (Dunkley, Clay Smith, Bailey Williams, The Bont, etc).

    Rhylee West is a free kick to us, our next academy kid (Khamis) seems set to be a Wood type who is a supreme athlete but will take time.
    God I hope we manufacture a first round pick before the West bid somehow.
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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    Oliver Liberatore was a good ball user at U14 level.
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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I haven't seen him play, but let's hope he has more pace than his old man.
    I've only seen a few snippets on You Tube, does look very much like his father in style. By all accounts is very similar, although Knightmare in his player profiles lists acceleration, vision, strong body, contested ball winning, composure and reliable ball use as particular strengths, which sounds promising (reckons his weaknesses are height [180 cm] and lack of x-factor).

    For what it's worth, KM rates him at #19 in the draft and reckons his draft range is anywhere from 10-40 - in comparing him to a current day player, KM says the closest comparison is Nathan Jones.

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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    I can't stand Nathan Jones. I hope Rhylee turns out just like him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I haven't seen him play, but let's hope he has more pace than his old man.
    He runs in his toes just like Scott did.
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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    By total chance I struck up a conversation at a wedding a couple of months ago with a guy who is one of the coaches at Calder. He was pretty complimentary of Rhylee's contested work and hands, but said his kicking is choppy and would need work. "Pretty much his dad" was the takeaway I got.

    The dude LOVED what he'd seen of Ollie Liberatore though.
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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    I was thinking this last year but is West the reason we traded out of the second round this year?

    From all reports he will be a late first round/early second round selection, which presumably would come after our first pick.

    Faced with the dilemna of keeping our second round pick and losing it to get him, or trading our second round pick for other stuff and then using a couple of later picks to get West we chose the latter.

    Essentially we chose something in 2017, West and no third rounders instead of nothing in 2017, West and third rounders.

    Khamis potentially justifies it further btw.

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    Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by soupaman View Post
    I was thinking this last year but is West the reason we traded out of the second round this year?

    From all reports he will be a late first round/early second round selection, which presumably would come after our first pick.

    Faced with the dilemna of keeping our second round pick and losing it to get him, or trading our second round pick for other stuff and then using a couple of later picks to get West we chose the latter.

    Essentially we chose something in 2017, West and no third rounders instead of nothing in 2017, West and third rounders.

    Khamis potentially justifies it further btw.

    Am I giving us to much credit?
    I think there are too many variables and unknowns to be doing something like that 1 year in advance. A players draft range can rise or fall dramatically in the space of a season, not to mention countless other list management issues that will arise over that time. Clubs usually acquire the appropriate picks from other clubs via pick/player swaps in the same trade period.

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