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09-05-2018, 10:04 AM
#106
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
kruder
Do you think Trengove will make it?
Trengrove will be our Chris Mayne unfortunately.
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09-05-2018, 10:19 AM
#107
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Bullies
Trengrove will be our Chris Mayne unfortunately.
I don't believe it will be that bad. He was brought in as a second ruck/Fwd as our young rucks develop.
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09-05-2018, 10:40 AM
#108
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Bullies
Trengrove will be our Chris Mayne unfortunately.
We've already had a Jade Rawlings.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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09-05-2018, 02:26 PM
#109
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Anyone interested in De Goey?
He seems like a little bastard but he is also an incredible talent. He's come back from his suspension looking like a Toby Greene clone, and is the sort of player we really need. Plus there's clearly a lot of upside there.
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09-05-2018, 03:07 PM
#110
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
If he up for trade or out of contract?
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09-05-2018, 03:13 PM
#111
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Anyone interested in De Goey?
He seems like a little bastard but he is also an incredible talent. He's come back from his suspension looking like a Toby Greene clone, and is the sort of player we really need. Plus there's clearly a lot of upside there.
How would a trade look?
P.s. Out of contract Hujsh
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09-05-2018, 03:18 PM
#112
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
How would a trade look?
P.s. Out of contract Hujsh
Cannot see him leaving Collingwood
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09-05-2018, 03:29 PM
#113
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Cannot see him leaving Collingwood
I can't see us putting up something worth Collingwood considering it. This year is difficult for us unless a big name leaves us, bigger than a Dahl type.
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09-05-2018, 03:42 PM
#114
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
(I swear I already posted this so sorry if it doubles up)
Couldn't we just sign him?
If we have a more attractive offer and he wants to come then realistically, between the tremendous influence of the AFLPA and the general culture around free agency and overcompensation, Collingwood probably won't be able to do much besides bluster to stop it.
It's easy to say "our first pick" but giving up a good first round pick never really works, and developing the best talent from the draft (which you 90% of the time get inside the top 10-15) is always the best way to build a list. If we absolutely have to trade I would want it to be a player/second-pick package (Dunkley/Young/Williams?), but I'd much prefer RFA.
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09-05-2018, 03:48 PM
#115
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
De Goey is going to be very expensive ($700-$800K a season). Hard to see him leaving the Pies. Kind of owes it to them to sign on again!
Huge talent.
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09-05-2018, 03:53 PM
#116
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
(I swear I already posted this so sorry if it doubles up)
Couldn't we just sign him?
If we have a more attractive offer and he wants to come then realistically, between the tremendous influence of the AFLPA and the general culture around free agency and overcompensation, Collingwood probably won't be able to do much besides bluster to stop it.
It's easy to say "our first pick" but giving up a good first round pick never really works, and developing the best talent from the draft (which you 90% of the time get inside the top 10-15) is always the best way to build a list. If we absolutely have to trade I would want it to be a player/second-pick package (Dunkley/Young/Williams?), but I'd much prefer RFA.
DeGoey's not eligible for any form of free agency.
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09-05-2018, 03:54 PM
#117
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
(I swear I already posted this so sorry if it doubles up)
Couldn't we just sign him?
If we have a more attractive offer and he wants to come then realistically, between the tremendous influence of the AFLPA and the general culture around free agency and overcompensation, Collingwood probably won't be able to do much besides bluster to stop it.
It's easy to say "our first pick" but giving up a good first round pick never really works, and developing the best talent from the draft (which you 90% of the time get inside the top 10-15) is always the best way to build a list. If we absolutely have to trade I would want it to be a player/second-pick package (Dunkley/Young/Williams?), but I'd much prefer RFA.
This is where Dahl is vital this year with RFAs. The key to really abusing free agency to me is to try to eliminate incoming and outgoing agents in the one period. Carlton brought in Daisy Thomas, let go Eddie Betts and got no compo. Far from ideal.
If Dahl is going to sign, then I'd go hard at Gaff. Hard. But if Dahl goes for a first rounder compo, and Gaff's contract is equal or more then there's no compo for us. It's just effectively a trade, not a very good player for no loss. Roughy won't change the free agency needle if he wanted to look around, but Dahl could. So hopefully we are trying to nail things down.
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09-05-2018, 04:02 PM
#118
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
DeGoey's not eligible for any form of free agency.
Well there you go.
Guess it would have to be a trade - I'd probably do any of those I outlined.
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09-05-2018, 04:21 PM
#119
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Cannot see him leaving Collingwood
He is an absolute gun and will only get better.
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09-05-2018, 04:29 PM
#120
Re: The Moving/Rolling Trading & Delisting Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
This is where Dahl is vital this year with RFAs. The key to really abusing free agency to me is to try to eliminate incoming and outgoing agents in the one period. Carlton brought in Daisy Thomas, let go Eddie Betts and got no compo. Far from ideal.
If Dahl is going to sign, then I'd go hard at Gaff. Hard. But if Dahl goes for a first rounder compo, and Gaff's contract is equal or more then there's no compo for us. It's just effectively a trade, not a very good player for no loss. Roughy won't change the free agency needle if he wanted to look around, but Dahl could. So hopefully we are trying to nail things down.
I think you maybe over estimating the value of Dahl in free agency. No one showed much interest last year and so not sure they will up the ante this year.