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11-04-2023, 07:30 AM
#211
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The one issue I have with Naughton is he doesn't lead enough and prefers to rely too much on his contested marking. Hanging around your opponent is not the way to go.
Do we actually give him enough space to lead.
Our forward line is continually clogged.
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11-04-2023, 11:35 AM
#212
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The one issue I have with Naughton is he doesn't lead enough and prefers to rely too much on his contested marking. Hanging around your opponent is not the way to go.
It would seem you can lead a natural centre half back to water but you can't necessarily make him ... lead.
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11-04-2023, 12:15 PM
#213
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
It would seem you can lead a natural centre half back to water but you can't necessarily make him ... lead.
Myth
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11-04-2023, 12:37 PM
#214
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
It would seem you can lead a natural centre half back to water but you can't necessarily make him ... lead.
So wise.
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11-04-2023, 12:57 PM
#215
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Myth
Not sure how it's a myth when he was drafted in that position and played his first season of AFL at a good level in that position.
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11-04-2023, 12:59 PM
#216
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Myth
wat? You can debate if he'd be as good back now as he is forward but there's no doubt he's a natural CHB. He played all his junior football there and got top 10 in the best and fairest playing his first year in that position.
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11-04-2023, 01:19 PM
#217
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Myth
He'd be the best one in the league if he had stayed there.
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11-04-2023, 01:26 PM
#218
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Not sure how it's a myth when he was drafted in that position and played his first season of AFL at a good level in that position.
Originally Posted by
hujsh
wat? You can debate if he'd be as good back now as he is forward but there's no doubt he's a natural CHB. He played all his junior football there and got top 10 in the best and fairest playing his first year in that position.
Wasn't it like 4th?
edit - it was 4th https://www.aflplayers.com.au/news-f...2018-bf-top-10
More of an In Bruges guy?
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11-04-2023, 01:28 PM
#219
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
hujsh
wat? You can debate if he'd be as good back now as he is forward but there's no doubt he's a natural CHB. He played all his junior football there and got top 10 in the best and fairest playing his first year in that position.
I was joking.
However, a good tall forward is like gold, and Naughton is one of the best for many years. He has kicked some big scores, and that is hard to replace.
CHB, anyone can play there, Gardner, Bruce for example.
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11-04-2023, 01:35 PM
#220
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I was joking.
However, a good tall forward is like gold, and Naughton is one of the best for many years. He has kicked some big scores, and that is hard to replace.
CHB, anyone can play there, Gardner, Bruce for example.
Do you admit there is a difference in the output that Brisbane & Collingwood get from Andrews & Moore to what we get from Gardner or Bruce?
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11-04-2023, 02:02 PM
#221
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Do you admit there is a difference in the output that Brisbane & Collingwood get from Andrews & Moore to what we get from Gardner or Bruce?
Of course, but kicking goals is more important.
Look at last year when Bruce was out. In 2021 he kicked 48 goals, but we didn't really get that sort of out put from any other player in 2022 when he was injured.
How do you replace Naughton's output?
2018 - 38 goals
2019 - 32
2020 - injured most of the year
2021 - 39
2022 - 47
I value a big forward way higher than a big Full back for effectiveness.
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11-04-2023, 02:03 PM
#222
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
... a good tall forward is like gold ...
Come now ... Lobb, Bruce, Ugle-Hagan, Darcy and Weightman can take a grab too, and that's not even mentioning a bloke with the tools to be the preeminent CHF in the comp if we chose to deploy him as such in English.
We're no longer as starved for tall marking targets up front as we might've been when Bevo decided to frig around and find out with Naughton, and hey it's been fun, but is it what's genuinely best for the team?
FWIW I think the genie's now bolted the bottle, this is all academic and as far as the club's concerned Naughton's a forward and I might even be content to leave it that if only he stopped kicking it like a defender.
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11-04-2023, 02:18 PM
#223
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
I know where the Demons would play him if they only had one of Lever / May.
Lever reads the play so well he could be a decent forward. Kicks better than Naughts too.
Defence is the key to success however as they well know.
Also helps to have two generational mids at the same time.
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13-04-2023, 09:37 AM
#224
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I was joking.
We would have known that if you had used an emoji
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13-04-2023, 09:41 AM
#225
Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs - Aaron Naughton
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I know where the Demons would play him if they only had one of Lever / May.
Lever reads the play so well he could be a decent forward. Kicks better than Naughts too.
Defence is the key to success however as they well know.
Also helps to have two generational mids at the same time.
It looks like LB has made him a forward for life but I do wonder how other clubs would utilise his skills and talents.
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