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16-09-2019, 09:44 PM
#736
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Hawkins to miss the prelim. Now for Greene.
Sweet can't stand him hoping like hell they lose.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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17-09-2019, 01:56 AM
#737
Re: MRO Thread
I have a feeling in my waters that Greene WILL be rubbed out.
He got a ridiculous Get Out of Jail card from the AFL system last week ****ing with Bont's head. Big mea culpa from Greene. Free to play the Lions.
So the following week he basically thumbs his nose at the AFL and its disciplinary system, and does it again.
Big test for the AFL. Dont think they will take that shit from Greene.
He will be rubbed out.
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17-09-2019, 08:38 AM
#738
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
Dry Rot
I have a feeling in my waters that Greene WILL be rubbed out.
He got a ridiculous Get Out of Jail card from the AFL system last week ****ing with Bont's head. Big mea culpa from Greene. Free to play the Lions.
So the following week he basically thumbs his nose at the AFL and its disciplinary system, and does it again.
Big test for the AFL. Dont think they will take that shit from Greene.
He will be rubbed out.
If every incident is evaluated independently of others there is no chance he gets suspended this week.
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17-09-2019, 09:26 AM
#739
Re: MRO Thread
Surely at some point his long list of prior offences and the obvious failure of the penalties applied to deter him from this behaviour will have to be taken in to account?
Oh wait, this is the AFL we're dealing with. That would be way too logical.
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17-09-2019, 10:18 AM
#740
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
Mantis
If every incident is evaluated independently of others there is no chance he gets suspended this week.
Is that real? That can’t be real.
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17-09-2019, 10:33 AM
#741
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
Mantis
If every incident is evaluated independently of others there is no chance he gets suspended this week.
Only differences is there is more conclusive vision this week. I reckon he'll cop his suspension this week because the AFEL don't like being treated like dickheads by a smartass. Greene gave city hall the finger this week when he should have pulled his head in and made himself a small target.
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17-09-2019, 12:32 PM
#742
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
Dry Rot
I have a feeling in my waters that Greene WILL be rubbed out.
He got a ridiculous Get Out of Jail card from the AFL system last week ****ing with Bont's head. Big mea culpa from Greene. Free to play the Lions.
So the following week he basically thumbs his nose at the AFL and its disciplinary system, and does it again.
Big test for the AFL. Dont think they will take that shit from Greene.
He will be rubbed out.
He may get a week but his past indiscretions have already been dealt with...well lets say "appropriately" and should have zero bearing on the charge he faces tonight
Unless there is some damning evidence that we are currently unaware of then compared to the previous week he should walk.
It's becoming more and more evident that the AFL does not have the stomach to rub out players unless the evidence is overwhelming. Suggest fines and warnings might become the norm
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17-09-2019, 12:40 PM
#743
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He may get a week but his past indiscretions have already been dealt with...well lets say "appropriately" and should have zero bearing on the charge he faces tonight
Unless there is some damning evidence that we are currently unaware of then compared to the previous week he should walk.
It's becoming more and more evident that the AFL does not have the stomach to rub out players unless the evidence is overwhelming. Suggest fines and warnings might become the norm
All the while they suspend players on flimsy grounds like Redpath on Davis, where there is absolutely only minor contact.
However, where there is clearly malicious intent, they look for any excuse to exonerate a higher profile player.
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17-09-2019, 03:00 PM
#744
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
However, where there is clearly malicious intent, they look for any excuse to exonerate a higher profile player.
Plus it's almost impossible to get suspended in finals if you are a top ten player at any club.
I would suggest as a solution that finals are exempt from suspensions ie. If Greene gets a week he serves it round 1 next year, not next week. It fixes the AFL's and that clubs most important concern, that no matter what they do players are always available for the finals and clubs can field their best sides.
It means the AFL doesn't have to piss off half the leagues supporters by finding bullshit loopholes, which means players can actually face consequences for their actions. It means we don't have to spend the first half of every week in September talking about how Greene is really just "misunderstood", or how Hawkins strike was "in play", or how Cotchins tackle was of "insufficient force". Instead we can just suspend them like we normally do (which is still stuffed up but marginally better). Maybe make finals penalties double, so Hawkins would be suspended for rounds one and two.
I just think this is a better way to do it. We don't have to worry about bullshit accidents meaning players miss important finals and we don't have to pretend malicious behaviour is anything but and is worthy of a "substantial fine".
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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17-09-2019, 03:14 PM
#745
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Plus it's almost impossible to get suspended in finals if you are a top ten player at any club.
I would suggest as a solution that finals are exempt from suspensions ie. If Greene gets a week he serves it round 1 next year, not next week. It fixes the AFL's and that clubs most important concern, that no matter what they do players are always available for the finals and clubs can field their best sides.
It means the AFL doesn't have to piss off half the leagues supporters by finding bullshit loopholes, which means players can actually face consequences for their actions. It means we don't have to spend the first half of every week in September talking about how Greene is really just "misunderstood", or how Hawkins strike was "in play", or how Cotchins tackle was of "insufficient force". Instead we can just suspend them like we normally do (which is still stuffed up but marginally better). Maybe make finals penalties double, so Hawkins would be suspended for rounds one and two.
I just think this is a better way to do it. We don't have to worry about bullshit accidents meaning players miss important finals and we don't have to pretend malicious behaviour is anything but and is worthy of a "substantial fine".
I think the AFL has to get tougher. Forget fines for hitting players. In fact, penalties should be doubled in finals to deter anyone doing something stupid like Greene
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17-09-2019, 03:26 PM
#746
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I think the AFL has to get tougher. Forget fines for hitting players. In fact, penalties should be doubled in finals to deter anyone doing something stupid like Greene
You can't deter the stupid from being stupid.
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17-09-2019, 05:32 PM
#747
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
You can't deter the stupid from being stupid.
Indeed, but mollycoddling them isn't a better way of approaching it!
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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17-09-2019, 07:11 PM
#748
Re: MRO Thread
I thought the MRO had stopped taking statements from players? Well, they just went back on that and made an exception for Greene who received a very favourable statement from Neale.
Reading Riley Beveridge’s live text updates is comical and infuriating in one.
2 minutes ago
Greene says his right hand "potentially" made contact to the nose of Neale.
4 minutes ago
Greene says he doesn't believe he raked Neale's face, nor his eye region. He says he can't recall ever making contact with Neale's face.
5 minutes ago
Neale says the ball was locked directly underneath Neale's face throughout most of the passage.
5 minutes ago
Greene says his hand never made contact to the eye region of Neale.
7 minutes ago
Greene says he put his left hand towards the ball in an attempt to "snatch the footy", but couldn't get hold of it and subsequently pulled his hand back.
7 minutes ago
Greene says he saw the footy bobble, which is why he reacted in an attempt to keep the ball locked in.
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17-09-2019, 07:19 PM
#749
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
The Adelaide Connection
I thought the MRO had stopped taking statements from players? Well, they just went back on that and made an exception for Greene who received a very favourable statement from Neale.
Reading Riley Beveridge’s live text updates is comical and infuriating in one.
2 minutes ago
Greene says his right hand "potentially" made contact to the nose of Neale.
4 minutes ago
Greene says he doesn't believe he raked Neale's face, nor his eye region. He says he can't recall ever making contact with Neale's face.
5 minutes ago
Neale says the ball was locked directly underneath Neale's face throughout most of the passage.
5 minutes ago
Greene says his hand never made contact to the eye region of Neale.
7 minutes ago
Greene says he put his left hand towards the ball in an attempt to "snatch the footy", but couldn't get hold of it and subsequently pulled his hand back.
7 minutes ago
Greene says he saw the footy bobble, which is why he reacted in an attempt to keep the ball locked in.
He won't be suspended, we knew that. It is all a farce.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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17-09-2019, 07:21 PM
#750
Re: MRO Thread
Originally Posted by
bornadog
He won't be suspended, we knew that. It is all a farce.
Oh man, the best one yet:
3 minutes ago
Greene: "Are you suggesting I'm trying to make contact with Neale's face?"
Pane: "Yes."
Greene: "No."