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24-06-2018, 02:11 AM
#226
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Ozza
I realise i’m In the minority - but I didn’t think Cameron’s was as bad as how its being reported. He’s come flying out from full forward, and was reckless and ultimately ended up half way between attacking the ball and closing up to protect himself with Andrews coming back into the contest - but its being spoken about like Lockett v Caven.
If its up to me, he gets two weeks. He didn’t line him up, he was reckless in a contest at very high speed.
Sort of agree, except on the penalty. 4 weeks for mine, but nowhere near some other infamous hits.
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24-06-2018, 07:31 AM
#227
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Surely Higgins will go for at least one of the three cheap shots he executed into our players faces (two were fists one was an elbow).
All three of our players were on their backs on the ground after the whistle had gone and play was dead too (actually one might have been wrapping him up in a tackle).
The broadcast kept showing the slow motion vision of each incident and JB (and the rest of the commentary team) refused to talk about them. Should get a week for each hit under the Hunter precedent.
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24-06-2018, 12:52 PM
#228
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
westdog54
Will get no weeks because the AFL's nose is parked right up GWS's arse.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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24-06-2018, 12:56 PM
#229
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
The Adelaide Connection
Surely Higgins will go for at least one of the three cheap shots he executed into our players faces (two were fists one was an elbow).
All three of our players were on their backs on the ground after the whistle had gone and play was dead too (actually one might have been wrapping him up in a tackle).
The broadcast kept showing the slow motion vision of each incident and JB (and the rest of the commentary team) refused to talk about them. Should get a week for each hit under the Hunter precedent.
I would have thought that heroically taking a player out from behind and breaking ribs like Ziebull did to Cloke last year would have attracted a sanction, but no, apparantly that sort of cowardice is to be admired.
But to quote my dear old nanna, North are Just a bunch of cow *!*!*!*!ers.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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24-06-2018, 12:58 PM
#230
Re: MRP Thread 2018
IMO his intent was the ball and then to protect himself, two weeks would be about right.
Love to see the flog Higgins get weeks ( he won't), first win for him against us and he carried on after the final siren like he'd won the 2016 flag.
It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
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24-06-2018, 12:59 PM
#231
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Ozza
I realise i’m In the minority - but I didn’t think Cameron’s was as bad as how its being reported. He’s come flying out from full forward, and was reckless and ultimately ended up half way between attacking the ball and closing up to protect himself with Andrews coming back into the contest - but its being spoken about like Lockett v Caven.
If its up to me, he gets two weeks. He didn’t line him up, he was reckless in a contest at very high speed.
Don't agree. What was his elbow doing up like that? It was not involved in the play.
I think it's as close to a life ban (and Cameron shouldn't play for the rest of the year and also be warned that if anything like that happens again then he can find a new sport to play) as I've ever seen. Cameron could have killed his opponent doing that. Someone said earlier that GWS should have their match points taken away, that should just be the start of the sanctions.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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24-06-2018, 02:52 PM
#232
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Don't agree. What was his elbow doing up like that? It was not involved in the play.
I think it's as close to a life ban (and Cameron shouldn't play for the rest of the year and also be warned that if anything like that happens again then he can find a new sport to play) as I've ever seen. Cameron could have killed his opponent doing that. Someone said earlier that GWS should have their match points taken away, that should just be the start of the sanctions.
I’m sorry - but I think that is ridiculous and way off. Close to a life ban, and probably shouldn’t play again this year?
I just can’t fathom how you can arrive there from that incident.
The action was actually contributed to by Cameron being in two minds and half pulling out.
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24-06-2018, 07:03 PM
#233
Re: MRP Thread 2018
6 weeks.
What shits me the most is all and sundry coming out to say "he's a ball player", "he's not a dirty player", etc. He pretty clearly is a dirty player, because he did probably the doggest act possible in running though a guy showing actual courage. There's nothing tough or cool about running full force at someone with an elbow, its just low and soft, and he should be demonised accordingly for it. If he isn't a dirty player then no one in the history of the sport has been.
The media have an obsession with going soft on the players in the wake of violence or incident, on or off field, belying their job and insulting the intelligence of the fan. It's really annoying and I wish someone would just commentate in a manner fitting of the act, rather than trying to force this false narrative that everyone regardless of action is a good guy because they're good footballers.
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24-06-2018, 08:46 PM
#234
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
6 weeks.
What shits me the most is all and sundry coming out to say "he's a ball player", "he's not a dirty player", etc. He pretty clearly is a dirty player, because he did probably the doggest act possible in running though a guy showing actual courage. There's nothing tough or cool about running full force at someone with an elbow, its just low and soft, and he should be demonised accordingly for it. If he isn't a dirty player then no one in the history of the sport has been.
The media have an obsession with going soft on the players in the wake of violence or incident, on or off field, belying their job and insulting the intelligence of the fan. It's really annoying and I wish someone would just commentate in a manner fitting of the act, rather than trying to force this false narrative that everyone regardless of action is a good guy because they're good footballers.
This whole 'he was trying to protect himself' story is *!*!*!*!ing well sickening to listen to.
Harris Andrews had eyes for the ball. Nothing more. As soon as Cameron saw him coming, he completely changed his approach. At that point, whether or not he was trying to protect himself or trying to elbow him in the head becomes completely irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.
He put his elbow out and knocked a player out while he was still in mid air. If the AFL's counsel at the tribunal don't push very hard for this to be marked deliberate I want to hear someone reputable in the media crying foul.
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24-06-2018, 08:48 PM
#235
Re: MRP Thread 2018
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-2...dition-worsens
Spent a fair chunk of today in hospital.
High impact doesn't do this one justice. I wish there was a way Michael Christian could circumvent the guidelines and grade it as severe impact because that's what it is.
Come to think of it, he probably wouldn't even if he could...
EDIT: Severe impact is the highest allowable. Disregard.
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24-06-2018, 09:41 PM
#236
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
6 weeks.
What shits me the most is all and sundry coming out to say "he's a ball player", "he's not a dirty player", etc. He pretty clearly is a dirty player, because he did probably the doggest act possible in running though a guy showing actual courage. There's nothing tough or cool about running full force at someone with an elbow, its just low and soft, and he should be demonised accordingly for it. If he isn't a dirty player then no one in the history of the sport has been.
The media have an obsession with going soft on the players in the wake of violence or incident, on or off field, belying their job and insulting the intelligence of the fan. It's really annoying and I wish someone would just commentate in a manner fitting of the act, rather than trying to force this false narrative that everyone regardless of action is a good guy because they're good footballers.
You're totally right.
I get that he's running full pace and can't avoid some kind of contact, but geez just put your hands up or something.
How anyone is talking his wilful act of malice down baffles me.
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24-06-2018, 09:53 PM
#237
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Didn't he clean up and knock out JJ in Canberra a few years back ? Not sure he was sanctioned for it. Different incident but he's not forceful contact averse.
Edit : Was 2013, dislocated JJs shoulder with a massive bump which was deemed legal at the time.
Edit 2 : Found video. Link
Edit 3 : Already mentioned earlier.
Last edited by Grantysghost; 25-06-2018 at 11:23 AM.
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24-06-2018, 10:02 PM
#238
Re: MRP Thread 2018
If the dickhead bothered to try and get the ball instead of fight everyone in the 2016 PF they might have won the match.
"Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"
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24-06-2018, 10:06 PM
#239
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Sedat
If the dickhead bothered to try and get the ball instead of fight everyone in the 2016 PF they might have won the match.
He was playing?
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24-06-2018, 11:30 PM
#240
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
He was playing?
I think he had 3 disposals., hang on just checked 5
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