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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    I hate the off season so much.
    But but, there are so many heroes and teams that will be top 4 and recruited so brilliantly - 18 premiers.
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    But but, there are so many heroes and teams that will be top 4 and recruited so brilliantly - 18 premiers.
    Shaun Higgins is flying in pre season training too.
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Shaun Higgins is flying in pre season training too.
    From Stevos twitter today.

    “Positive signs for Ben Jacobs, sharp in first half for Kangas. Shaun Higgins always looks good pre-season, but may have found new level”
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    There's a reason that there's been doubts, mostly because, despite his lofty draft status, he's shown 2/5ths of nothing as an AFL footballer.

    I hate the off season so much.
    Man, you're getting more and more like Grouchy Smurf every post.

    His trade position pretty much reflected his value, give or take five or so positions. A reasonable person knows he's 3-5 years away in terms of development at least, I can't see our supporter base being that patient, but our supporter base isn't reasonable.

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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    There's a reason that there's been doubts, mostly because, despite his lofty draft status, he's shown 2/5ths of nothing as an AFL footballer.

    I hate the off season so much.
    As much as I want to and am hopeful with Schache, this is no doubt accurate at the moment.
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Man, you're getting more and more like Grouchy Smurf every post.

    His trade position pretty much reflected his value, give or take five or so positions. A reasonable person knows he's 3-5 years away in terms of development at least, I can't see our supporter base being that patient, but our supporter base isn't reasonable.
    We may not be reasonable but we are patient. A lack of patience is one thing you can't accuse us of.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.

    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I
    Can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. " He said, "Shut up, kid.
    Get in the back of the patrol car. "




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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    I see 2018 as another development year for Schache but I question why there is so much doubt with him. He's already had 27 games experience at the senior level and I don't think a lack of intensity is something we can't remedy. We will use him forward and in the ruck and he will now have to work for his opportunities.
    I genuinely think this is a good position for both the player and club.
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I see 2018 as another development year for Schache but I question why there is so much doubt with him. He's already had 27 games experience at the senior level and I don't think a lack of intensity is something we can't remedy. We will use him forward and in the ruck and he will now have to work for his opportunities.
    I genuinely think this is a good position for both the player and club.

    This situation can turn into a win/win. A win for us and a win for Josh. (BTW win/win is impossible-if somebody tells you that "this is a win/win situation" then beware because they are lying to you, for every winner there has to be a loser, but Brisbane and Essendon are the losers in this situation so it's party time) if things turn out our way just a little bit. It's not like there are lots of moving parts to put together to make this a success.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.

    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I
    Can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. " He said, "Shut up, kid.
    Get in the back of the patrol car. "




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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    There's a reason that there's been doubts, mostly because, despite his lofty draft status, he's shown 2/5ths of nothing as an AFL footballer.

    I hate the off season so much.
    I can't understand how people can say he's shown nothing at AFL level. In two seasons as a key forward he's managed to play 27 games and kicked 25 goals. That's well above average for his age and position.

    To put it into perspective after two seasons Josh Kennedy had played 22 games and kicked 11 goals as a number 4 pick and Joe Daniher had played 26 games and kicked 31 goals as the nominal number 1 pick. And neither player had relocated interstate.
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    I can't understand how people can say he's shown nothing at AFL level. In two seasons as a key forward he's managed to play 27 games and kicked 25 goals. That's well above average for his age and position.

    To put it into perspective after two seasons Josh Kennedy had played 22 games and kicked 11 goals as a number 4 pick and Joe Daniher had played 26 games and kicked 31 goals as the nominal number 1 pick. And neither player had relocated interstate.
    It's good points you raise. The other good point is that he has already done a bit and gained some experience but he also still has a lot to prove and seems to be determined to get there.
    If he does the work and lifts his intensity we should start to see the type of player we hope he can be.

    He has the athletic tools to be a unique player and with some quality coaching we should be able to see him improve.
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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    I can't understand how people can say he's shown nothing at AFL level. In two seasons as a key forward he's managed to play 27 games and kicked 25 goals. That's well above average for his age and position.

    To put it into perspective after two seasons Josh Kennedy had played 22 games and kicked 11 goals as a number 4 pick and Joe Daniher had played 26 games and kicked 31 goals as the nominal number 1 pick. And neither player had relocated interstate.

    Good points. It's an accepted fact that big guys take longer to develop than small guys. 27 games and 25 goals are an excellent return for a 20 year old in his 2 seasons. Especially 2 seasons where everyone has been on his back, he was a continent away from a family he is very close with to go along with all the other troubles he would encounter just fitting into a club and a career.

    I'm not saying he will play like Royce Hart this year but he won't be Andrew MacDougall (sorry Rocco) either. He'll play more games than he"ll miss and if he can steer 25-30 goals through the sticks then he will be more than a handy replacement for Stringer.

    That's really who's output we are looking for him to replicate on the field and I think he can do it.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.

    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I
    Can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. " He said, "Shut up, kid.
    Get in the back of the patrol car. "




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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    The few times I saw Schache play with the Lions he was quite good. He showed a lot of promise. I am very happy with him being with us this year and beyond.

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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    The few times I saw Schache play with the Lions he was quite good. He showed a lot of promise. I am very happy with him being with us this year and beyond.

    I must have caught all of his good games and missed all the crap ones too. I've only ever seen him at the (actually he is a little ahead in development compared to your average KPD IMO) stage you'd expect a tall KPD to be at. Hes a little clumsy but he's a big kid, they are awkward and fall over a lot but they get over it.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.

    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I
    Can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. " He said, "Shut up, kid.
    Get in the back of the patrol car. "




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    Re: 'Pissed off' Schache wants to silence doubters

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post

    To put it into perspective after two seasons Josh Kennedy had played 22 games and kicked 11 goals as a number 4 pick ...And neither player had relocated interstate.
    You make good points but Kennedy started off playing with Carlton - pretty sure that is interstate for a WA boy! Let the record show he wanted to STAY at Carlton and his initial refusal to move nearly held up the Judd deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    You make good points but Kennedy started off playing with Carlton - pretty sure that is interstate for a WA boy! Let the record show he wanted to STAY at Carlton and his initial refusal to move nearly held up the Judd deal.

    I wonder if Carlton had the opportunity to go back and unpick that deal and keep Kennedy and their #3 (maston?) if they would?
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.

    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I
    Can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. " He said, "Shut up, kid.
    Get in the back of the patrol car. "




    Arlo Guthrie

    WOOF NUMBER 6

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