Simon Dalrymple is gone

[jeemak]

I wouldn’t say that Steven Wells, with over 23 years at the healm of Geelong’s recruiting, is seen as institutionalised per se.

He remainss very highly regarded across the industry.

For me, I’m just disappointed that Dal couldn’t be our version of Wells, in tenure terms.

Perhaps he has a different set of values than Dalrymple, and doesn't need the same challenges Dalrymple feels he does. Maybe Geelong has a different environment for secondary managers that we can't offer in inner city Melbourne.

The feeling of being institutionalised is a deeply personal thing. Some are impervious to it, others aren't and can't stick around for decades, or periods of five years.

Take a look at Dodo for instance. Clearly a man of little actual ambition, caught up in the fight feigning real ambition, and completely institutionalised to the arrogance of that pitiful and disgusting organisation. It's healthy to not find a club and a national recruiting manager or list manager in that situation.

Either way, it has nothing to do with industry standard, it's up to the person and what they want from their careers.

[SonofScray]

A bit of a surprise to me, but this is the time for people in that role to move, if they are leaving.

Gave great service, is a loss. Let's not get carried away with the hand wringing, existential crisis stuff. We aren't Pavlov's Bulldogs. The media will pull out their pre written articles of that nature. Just change the date and name.

[Go_Dogs]

Dalrymple has been huge for us over an extended period of time, and besides his first effort in the draft, has more hits than misses and a history of landing quality developing players late in the draft and in the rookie draft. A lot of his legacy is now going to be focused on what becomes of top 25 selections like Dunkley, Collins, English, Naughton and Richards, along with a few developing players from the past few years in Williams, Lipinski and Young (I'm excluding Marcus Adams as he's already established).

As far as finding a replacement, having Bains and Power in place helps and you'd like to think this move has been on the cards for a period of time so we've had the opportunity to make a few discrete enquiries. Matt Rendell interests me, although he's been out of a head recruiter role for quite a few years now - perhaps another understudy who is well regarded and ready for the challenge of being in charge will emerge.

[Remi Moses]

Disappointing loss, but some need to calm the farm on here .

[Bulldog4life]

Neville Stibbard who was a consultant with us in recruiting has gone full time to the Suns.

[G-Mo77]

I usually just shrug off off field moves, this one though I can't. What a huge blow!

[Remi Moses]

I hope we’re not going the cheap as chips option and having Sam power in both roles .

[Remi Moses]

I'm just hoping Bains can get us the Saints genius who got them Billings and McCartin.

Or the deal that got them Hawthorn’s first round pick last year

[Bulldog4life]

This was our recruiting team in 2017.

More finances for the Dogs' recruiting department in the past few years changed their philosophy to make each scout a specialist in certain areas. Having been short-staffed before then, the club found gaps were exposed in its coverage of players at AFL and junior level. But that has been tightened now, with Jason McCartney the decision maker in the list management area (trades and free agency), and Dan Fisher working as the Bulldogs' pro scout. Simon Dalrymple, whose selection of Marcus Bontempelli at No.4 in the 2013 draft shaped their run to last year's premiership, is the recruiting manager, with a team of four full-timers beneath him. Jamie Downs (South Australia, Western Australia and Northern Territory) and Wayne McCraw (Victoria, NSW and Queensland) are the Dogs' leading recruiting officers for their respective zones, while Dave Weston is the organiser of the recruiting team. He collects all the GPS numbers and Champion Data statistics, maintains prospects' fitness and psychological profiling and plans for key events through the year. In a newer role, David Newton manages the Bulldogs' Next Generation Academy, seeing him identify possible prospects in the club's specified areas. They have 10 part-time staff.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-1...clubs-recruits

[Smads57]

Disappointed about losing Simon, but we move on....

Thinking a little left of centre here re Sam Power’s position - it must help having your older brother involved with the Academy Players and not being aligned to any particular club. For instance, Luke Power was in the US with various young Academy players including Rhylee West. Surely Luke would have good intel on the respective better payers in that Academy and Rhylee’s position amongst them. It would be interesting sitting around the Power family table at tea time come this years draft and discussing the merits of various youngsters.

[The Doctor]

Or the deal that got them Hawthorn’s first round pick last year

that was superb

if Sam Power was the architect of getting our 2nd rounder for Carlton in the 2018 draft last trade period then he too did superbly. I doubt Silvagni was clever enough to pull that one off.

Concerning finding a new recruiting manager, I wouldn't be surprised if we promoted from within. Surely if we wanted to keep Dalrymple then we could have as he was contracted. While I'm surprised at this development the club must feel there is someone in mind ready to step in. Surely!

[Twodogs]

Disappointed about losing Simon, but we move on....

Thinking a little left of centre here re Sam Power’s position - it must help having your older brother involved with the Academy Players and not being aligned to any particular club. For instance, Luke Power was in the US with various young Academy players including Rhylee West. Surely Luke would have good intel on the respective better payers in that Academy and Rhylee’s position amongst them. It would be interesting sitting around the Power family table at tea time come this years draft and discussing the merits of various youngsters.

It would be good to know where Rylee is seen by his peers. Is he a leader, is he someone happy to coast on his talent (and remembering his old man, I think I already know the answer to that one.) is he first to training and last to leave and does all the extras after training and extra sessions, is he an extrovert or an introvert? It would be really good for our recruiting manager to have somebody to touch base with, maybe somebody who has been away on tour and spent time with Rhylee. If only there as somebody like that Sam could access...

[mjp]

I have to admit to feeling that Dalrymple would leave as soon as a recruitment process was initiated for J-M's old job...

My take is different on this to most though. Player development > recruiting. The Dalrymple/B-Mac team was annoying. The Dalrymple/Bevo team was amazing. I think most recruiters would love picking kids that Bevo will have a hand in developing...

Life member of the club and certainly a contributor to the 2016 success...I wish him personal happiness and ZERO professional success at the Swans.

[Doc26]

Dal’s legacy will be with us for many a season yet.

This one could turn out to be his biggest get yet

https://twitter.com/westernbulldogs/...011584/video/1

Just press play. Guaranteed to put the smile back on the dial.

[ledge]

It would be good to know where Rylee is seen by his peers. Is he a leader, is he someone happy to coast on his talent (and remembering his old man, I think I already know the answer to that one.) is he first to training and last to leave and does all the extras after training and extra sessions, is he an extrovert or an introvert? It would be really good for our recruiting manager to have somebody to touch base with, maybe somebody who has been away on tour and spent time with Rhylee. If only there as somebody like that Sam could access...

I would say the club know all that already as usually father/sons if any good are doing time at the club at age 14.