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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
Prince Imperial
I was only 11-12 years old and it was the first full season of games that I had ever witnessed. Even taking those things into account it was easily the best season I have ever seen from a Bulldogs player.
I think it's the best I've seen from any player. He was incredible. We didn't have 'show and tell' at my school, we had 'how good was Kelvin on Saturday?'
He won a Brownlow medal playing centre half forward when it was THE position on the ground. Every attack went through him, he'd start moving when the full back was looking for somebody to kick it to and run up to the wing to provide an option. And down to the pocket to draw opponents away from his teammates. He was a 22 year old captain of a team that won 5 games learning to play a new position that was the most draining and important position on the ground under a first year coach. Who happened to be one of the best exponents of the position himself! He played the position so well that he won the Brownlow.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Jack Macrae
Wish I had seen KT play. Only seen the occasional highlight. Great to hear about woof recollections. Let’s hope a few of our current brigade - here’s looking at you Bonti, Jacko and Toby - also become the stuff bulldog legends are made of.
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
josie
Wish I had seen KT play. Only seen the occasional highlight. Great to hear about woof recollections. Let’s hope a few of our current brigade - here’s looking at you Bonti, Jacko and Toby - also become the stuff bulldog legends are made of.
There's quite a lot on YouTube but it doesn't do him justice. You don't see him shake off four defenders by the time the camera gets there to film him taking a mark on his chest all by himself.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Jack Macrae
My all time champs growing up were Ray Huppatz, Geoff Jennings, Kelvin Templeton,Doug Hawkins,Chris Grant and the Bont now, but Macrae definitley in my sights since he came to the club , one of those quiet accumulators that no one notices, can't believe the media has taken so long to notice , he was breaking records from the moment he played AFL.
Sadly the media have favourites and no matter what others do they are ignored, as an example SHeahen still had NIc Nat in his top 50 this year and he hadn't played a game for pretty much two years.
The way Macavaney goes on you would think Carey will win the Brownlow this year.
When will the media start judging players anew each season ?
Bring back the biff
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
ledge
My all time champs growing up were Ray Huppatz, Geoff Jennings, Kelvin Templeton,Doug Hawkins,Chris Grant and the Bont now, but Macrae definitley in my sights since he came to the club , one of those quiet accumulators that no one notices, can't believe the media has taken so long to notice , he was breaking records from the moment he played AFL.
Sadly the media have favourites and no matter what others do they are ignored, as an example SHeahen still had NIc Nat in his top 50 this year and he hadn't played a game for pretty much two years.
The way Macavaney goes on you would think Carey will win the Brownlow this year.
When will the media start judging players anew each season ?
You'd think with more media reporting footy that there would be more opinion and the boys club would be broken up a bit. You'd think there would be better analysis of games and a kid walking into a team and racking up 30+ touches each week would prompt a bit of comment apart from the "this Jack Macrae I'd alright" whenever he gets 40+. You'd think the other kid who really sank the money shot on prelim final night to finally sink the monkey that had been in our back for decades would rate a mention. But it's just turned into (to quote Mark Latham) a conga line of suck holes.
Jack is getting the credit he has always deserved now anyway.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
You'd think with more media reporting footy that there would be more opinion and the boys club would be broken up a bit. You'd think there would be better analysis of games and a kid walking into a team and racking up 30+ touches each week would prompt a bit of comment apart from the "this Jack Macrae I'd alright" whenever he gets 40+. You'd think the other kid who really sank the money shot on prelim final night to finally sink the monkey that had been in our back for decades would rate a mention. But it's just turned into (to quote Mark Latham) a conga line of suck holes.
Jack is getting the credit he has always deserved now anyway.
Its a reasonable point, that Macrae is only getting the media exposure now is fairly strange given that he has done things that should put him on the radar in a big way;
- A number 6 draft pick.
- Has gotten huge numbers ever since he entered the league (ranked 4th of all current players for career disposals average/ ranked 7th of all time for disposals average)
- Youngest player to get 40 possessions in a game
- Had 39 possessions in the Hawthorn final - including 16 in the third quarter where the damage was done.
- Kicked the winning goal in the prelim!
- Had 33 possessions and 10 score involvements in a grand final - and was in some people's eyes, the best player on the ground.
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
Ozza
Its a reasonable point, that Macrae is only getting the media exposure now, is fairly strange given that he has done thinks that should put him on the radar in a big way;
- A number 6 draft pick.
- Has gotten huge numbers ever since he entered the league (ranked 4th of all current players for career disposals average/ ranked 7th of all time for disposals average)
- Youngest player to get 40 possessions in a game
- Had 39 possessions in the Hawthorn final - including 16 in the third quarter where the damage was done.
- Kicked the winning goal in the prelim!
- Had 33 possessions and 10 score involvements in a grand final - and was in some people's eyes, the best player on the ground.
That is some record
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
ledge
My all time champs growing up were Ray Huppatz, Geoff Jennings, Kelvin Templeton,Doug Hawkins,Chris Grant and the Bont now, but Macrae definitley in my sights since he came to the club , one of those quiet accumulators that no one notices, can't believe the media has taken so long to notice , he was breaking records from the moment he played AFL.
Sadly the media have favourites and no matter what others do they are ignored, as an example SHeahen still had NIc Nat in his top 50 this year and he hadn't played a game for pretty much two years.
The way Macavaney goes on you would think Carey will win the Brownlow this year.
When will the media start judging players anew each season ?
Yeah I agree ledge. The media certainly have their favourites. Jack Macrae definitely has flown under the radar for a while but at least now he is getting the recognition he deserves. Yes Jack is one of those quiet accumulators
"Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
bornadog
That is some record
Pretty impressive career so far.
"Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
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23-05-2018, 03:14 PM
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
josie
Wish I had seen KT play. Only seen the occasional highlight. Great to hear about woof recollections. Let’s hope a few of our current brigade - here’s looking at you Bonti, Jacko and Toby - also become the stuff bulldog legends are made of.
Me too. I would have loved the day he kicked 13 goals at the Western Oval in 1978. That was 11 years before I was born.
"Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
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23-05-2018, 03:19 PM
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
Eastdog
Me too. I would have loved the day he kicked 13 goals at the Western Oval in 1978. That was 11 years before I was born.
actually 15 goals 9 behinds
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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23-05-2018, 03:23 PM
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
bornadog
actually 15 goals 9 behinds
Amazing stuff! You wont see that very often these days.
"Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
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23-05-2018, 04:09 PM
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Re: Jack Macrae
We'd be more than happy with 15.9 from the entire team most weeks....
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23-05-2018, 04:20 PM
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
Ozza
Interesting that Macrae didn't get coaches votes, or votes on fox footy and a number of the tv/radio. However, he got 3 votes in the Herald Sun. Will be an interesting one on brownlow night - as the difference between him polling up to three, or possibly nil, in that game might have a say in whether he wins it.
In any case, we're going to need to win enough games to give him a chance.
The AFL's Brownlow Predictor interestingly gave Jack the 3 Votes this round. They now have him on 11 votes, joint 2nd with Cripps and trailling Fyfe, 15.
The AFL Coaches have the 3 leading players (different scoring system) as Fyfe, Gawn and Darling, with Macrae and Mitchell equal 4th.
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23-05-2018, 04:32 PM
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Re: Jack Macrae
Originally Posted by
Eastdog
Amazing stuff! You wont see that very often these days.
You didn't see it very often back then either.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.