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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    If ever you need an example of the cost of tanking to the culture of a club look no further than Melbourne. They embraced losing as a way of winning and they're still paying for it now. Carlton and Essendon as also good cases in point.
    Couldn't happen to a better bunch.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Dogs View Post
    They have a lot of players well down on form, including Hibberd, Jones, Hunt along with badly missing Viney and Tom McDonald.

    Unfortunately, they'll turn it around before we play them - they have too much talent not to do so.
    + Lever. From AA squad to lucky to hold his spot.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    We could but they would just giggle to themselves because they know better than us. That explains all their recent success compared to us. We might get a faux tough guy text in response...


    Speaking of that, WTF does Bugg think he is, and what exactly has he acheived in AFL football that allowed him to carry on like that? I remember thinking when he got himself suspended a couple of weeks later "if I was MFC I'd be sending Bugg around to JJ's house to ask if he could polish his Norm Smith and premiership medallions for him"
    Good lord that's too delicious to pass up.

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Not a very well branded club. The bearded goateed Demon with the fork circa 1980 at least looked mildly menacing. The current one was probably done by one of the VCE art students at Hailebury College ( where just about every staff member is a fan ).

    You know you are in trouble when your young players have a bit of a giggle about their own club culture on national TV.
    Some baffling decisions - making two kids co-captains a few years back then delisting them was a master-stroke. Paul Roos stuffed the development of those guys by doing that.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    If ever you need an example of the cost of tanking to the culture of a club look no further than Melbourne. They embraced losing as a way of winning and they're still paying for it now. Carlton and Essendon as also good cases in point.
    Being a cynic I always thought that the number one pick was too big a prize to pass up just to put the short term pride of winning a few games toward the tail end of a season that was going nowhere anyway. I thought you might as well finish last as finish eighth.

    Melbourne put that theory to the test and I couldn't have been more wrong. You fool around with that sort of thing at the peril of wrecking the culture of your club. Letting the players develop a "near enough is good enough" attitude has proved disastrous for the development of Watts, Scully, Toumpas and a few others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Good lord that's too delicious to pass up.


    That is gold.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    The Demons.

    So many early draft picks.

    They had the best AFL coach ever to train them up in Paul Roos.

    And then more early draft picks.

    And then they had the next best coach in the AFL Simon Goodwin to take them to the finals in 2017 but didn't.

    And now they are piss weak yet again in 2018.

    Why?
    No heart, No balls, No brains
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    No heart, No balls, No brains

    Yep. In a word they are soft.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    They seem like they expect to just instantly come good without putting in the hard yards. Like Clayton Oliver for instance; he's a fantastic talent and will be a gun but he's also kind lazy out there in that he's only going to run hard when the ball is near him.

    The Demons know that the AFL are looking out for them so they can get away with not caring while the AFL would love to ship the Bulldogs off somewhere and so we can't afford to never put in the effort.

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
    Not a very well branded club. The bearded goateed Demon with the fork circa 1980 at least looked mildly menacing. The current one was probably done by one of the VCE art students at Hailebury College ( where just about every staff member is a fan ).

    You know you are in trouble when your young players have a bit of a giggle about their own club culture on national TV.
    Some baffling decisions - making two kids co-captains a few years back then delisting them was a master-stroke. Paul Roos stuffed the development of those guys by doing that.
    Pretty sure Mark Neeld can take the credit for that decision.

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    So from what I've read some of the players were not only worried about the camp but they went to the Players' Association as a first port of call rather than just going to the coaches.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Pretty sure Mark Neeld can take the credit for that decision.
    2012, stand corrected Axe man. Shocking decision.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    They still give us a hard time
    Bring back the biff

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Pretty sure Mark Neeld can take the credit for that decision.
    Forgot he even existed!

    And now he's at Essedum as a player development coach? Lots of things now make sense.

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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Perhaps our name can be added to this thread title.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Just to make us all feel better. Carlton are now the least successful Victorian club this century. Since the start of the 2000 season, a year after the club had made the Grand Final and a year in which it was to make a preliminary final, Carlton has played 417 matches for just 157 wins (37.65%).

    In the same period, Melbourne has played 415 games for 158 wins (38.07%).

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