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    Re: Nic Nat's Tackle

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Reading the thread title I thought this was going to be a whole different discussion.
    Isn't that what the ex GC player's complaint was about, that his team mates were talking about
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    Re: Nic Nat's Tackle

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    Nothing. Players tackle longer now because the tackler is trained to pin the arms so the player can't release the ball. The old method of grabbing a player around the waist, or by the jumper, as they used to do is totally ineffective in the modern era and you may as well just try to corral the ball carrier. As you're suggesting, prior opportunity has nothing to do with it.
    When players get hold of the ball and know they are going to get tackled, they don't bother trying to get rid of it because a) They want to create a stoppage and not just give up the ball, and b)they know they will get away with it due to no prior. The player tackling may have their arms pinned, but for some reason decides to bring the player with the ball to ground and sometimes slams the player dangerously into the ground. That is what I am talking about. IF the no prior was taken away, then the player may make a choice to not grab the ball and hold it onto their chest, they would tap it along or get rid of the ball quicker.
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    Re: Nic Nat's Tackle

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    When players get hold of the ball and know they are going to get tackled, they don't bother trying to get rid of it because a) They want to create a stoppage and not just give up the ball, and b)they know they will get away with it due to no prior. The player tackling may have their arms pinned, but for some reason decides to bring the player with the ball to ground and sometimes slams the player dangerously into the ground. That is what I am talking about. IF the no prior was taken away, then the player may make a choice to not grab the ball and hold it onto their chest, they would tap it along or get rid of the ball quicker.
    You don’t think arms being pinned is as significantly influenced by technique and strength in the tackle, as it is by players holding onto the ball closely to their chest to create a stoppage?
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    Re: Nic Nat's Tackle

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    You don’t think arms being pinned is as significantly influenced by technique and strength in the tackle, as it is by players holding onto the ball closely to their chest to create a stoppage?
    Sure, all goes hand in hand so to speak
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