Rookie List Strategy 2018

[hujsh]

Not quite following why we didn't take another rookie either. Did we not want to or is Lynch still a rookie?

[bulldogtragic]

Not quite following why we didn't take another rookie either. Did we not want to or is Lynch still a rookie?

This is testing me. If he's a Cat B, then we have an opening as Gowers & Lynch were as advised by the club 'elevated'. We still have an opportunity to bring in a Cat A rookie using the same rule Essendon & GWS are using to get Clarke & Mumford. Maybe we needed more time to assess our target. Having read the AFEL rules I'm not sure exactly how he's a Cat B. But then again I don't know how we picked Hayes after passing. So don't listen to me is my solution.

[josie]

Are they keeping a spot free for mid year draftee from vfl if one of our KPPs is injured?

[bulldogtragic]

Are they keeping a spot free for mid year draftee from vfl if one of our KPPs is injured?

There's a mid year rookie draft next year, which will cover that. I'm not sure what we are doing, except to guess we may use the rule to automatically select an ex-AFEL player as a rookie like Essendon & WCE. Maybe we've got one hidden away somewhere out of sight?

[Smads57]

BT - Sam Power made a short reference in his interview on the Bulldog website around how we 'secured' Hayes (another new rule for this year's draft?).

[bulldogtragic]

BT - Sam Power made a short reference in his interview on the Bulldog website around how we 'secured' Hayes (another new rule for this year's draft?).

Yep. During the draft live I was suggesting we trade for the last pick, then held by Colllingwood. Then couldn't understand why we wouldn't. But the rule change for this year since we've found out allowed for our pick to keep moving back after passing until effectively the last pick, without the need for trade and using it as the last pick like I wanted. That's why he gets paid well to manage the list, and I'm an anonymous internet rambler!

[Grantysghost]

Could this be why we still have a spot (from AFL site)

"The sole hope remaining for those not picked up on Friday is now the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP), introduced only last week, which enables clubs to sign players to their rookie list from December 1 through until March 15 next year."

Last week?

[bulldogtragic]

Yep. I've been reading up the last hour about it.

GWS - Mumford
Essendon - Clarke
Richmond - M. Weller
WCE - Brooksby
Melb - Wagner

Are the clubs so far publicly saying who their Cat A rookie will be under this rule. I assume we have someone lined up. I wonder if a Jye Bolton is tempting?

[choconmientay]

With a back up ruck man on the rookie list, I don't think Campbell is getting a look. How about we give Jake Neade a go?

[The Adelaide Connection]

So we have one Rookie spot left and the potential to take on more Category B rookies (Joshua Chatfield and Lachlan Dawson).

What should we do? Any players that we should be looking at?

[bulldogtragic]

So we have one Rookie spot left and the potential to take on more Category B rookies (Joshua Chatfield and Lachlan Dawson).

What should we do? Any players that we should be looking at?

A's. Yes. If we have a vacancy, we should fill it.

B's. Josh Chatfield's stats for the year were underwhelming, although he was injured. On the flip side, he was spoken about highly by some early in the year. It sounds very Tristan Tweedie in the talent cut down by injury gamble. Lachy Dawson, whilst I've not seen him play, has very good stats in a lot of key midfield areas and some very impressive individual games. So maybe he gets looked at as a raw midfield option.

[bulldogtragic]

Afro.com.au

OPPORTUNITY still beckons for those players who didn't join an AFL club last week.

The grieving process for that group had already begun at this time last year, but the new pre-season supplemental selection period (SSP), which opened on Saturday, has changed all that.

Six clubs – Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne, Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Richmond and Gold Coast – have one list spot vacant, which will almost certainly be filled in the SSP.

So how do the new rules work?

Previously listed AFL footballers no longer have to nominate for the draft and can sign with their club of choice as a Category A rookie between December 1 and March 15.

The only exceptions are those players who retire or delist themselves.

In those cases, they must nominate for that year's draft and be overlooked – or sit out an AFL season – to be eligible for the SSP.

The same goes for players who have never played at the highest level, but nominated for that year's draft and didn't find an AFL home.

They, too, become eligible for the following SSP, although if they still miss out they must nominate for the draft again the next year.

The Giants, Demons and Tigers passed twice in the rookie draft, effectively leaving two spots up for grabs.

However, all three had each committed one of those to past AFL footballers who would sign in the SSP: Shane Mumford (GWS), Corey Wagner (Melbourne) and Maverick Weller (Richmond).

The other players who have taken up the opportunity to join a club this way are Zac Clarke (Essendon), Keegan Brooksby (West Coast) and Tom Campbell (North Melbourne).

The Tigers also sought permission for West Australian midfielder Sydney Stack, an All Australian at this year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, to train at Punt Rd and potentially take the club's other spot.

A ruckman is in the Suns' sights for their empty place as they seek more support for No.1 big man Jarrod Witts.

Injury-prone Tom Nicholls and Peter Wright, who is preferred as a key forward, are Witts' main back-ups at this stage.

The Blues' decision may be a race in four.

Axed forward Jed Lamb and VFL trio Jesse Palmer and Sam Fisher, who were previously listed at Port Adelaide and Sydney, respectively, and Mason Blakey trained with Carlton leading into the drafts.

Former Saint Hugh Goddard and ex-Demon Tom Bugg became Blues in last week's rookie draft after training at Ikon Park.

That leaves the Giants, Demons and Bulldogs with one vacancy apiece.

Among the players in the mix could be multiple state league medallists Mick Gibbons, Mitch Grigg and Jye Bolton, Casey Demon Jay Lockhart, key-position prospect Hayden McLean, who trained at St Kilda, and late-blooming South Fremantle onballer Marlion Pickett.

There is also a chance clubs will keep a spot up their sleeve for next year's mid-season rookie draft, but industry sources say it is unlikely any team would enter the season one player short.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Afro.com.au

OPPORTUNITY still beckons for those players who didn't join an AFL club last week.

The grieving process for that group had already begun at this time last year, but the new pre-season supplemental selection period (SSP), which opened on Saturday, has changed all that.

Six clubs – Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne, Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Richmond and Gold Coast – have one list spot vacant, which will almost certainly be filled in the SSP.

So how do the new rules work?

Previously listed AFL footballers no longer have to nominate for the draft and can sign with their club of choice as a Category A rookie between December 1 and March 15.

The only exceptions are those players who retire or delist themselves.

In those cases, they must nominate for that year's draft and be overlooked – or sit out an AFL season – to be eligible for the SSP.

The same goes for players who have never played at the highest level, but nominated for that year's draft and didn't find an AFL home.

They, too, become eligible for the following SSP, although if they still miss out they must nominate for the draft again the next year.

The Giants, Demons and Tigers passed twice in the rookie draft, effectively leaving two spots up for grabs.

However, all three had each committed one of those to past AFL footballers who would sign in the SSP: Shane Mumford (GWS), Corey Wagner (Melbourne) and Maverick Weller (Richmond).

The other players who have taken up the opportunity to join a club this way are Zac Clarke (Essendon), Keegan Brooksby (West Coast) and Tom Campbell (North Melbourne).

The Tigers also sought permission for West Australian midfielder Sydney Stack, an All Australian at this year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, to train at Punt Rd and potentially take the club's other spot.

A ruckman is in the Suns' sights for their empty place as they seek more support for No.1 big man Jarrod Witts.

Injury-prone Tom Nicholls and Peter Wright, who is preferred as a key forward, are Witts' main back-ups at this stage.

The Blues' decision may be a race in four.

Axed forward Jed Lamb and VFL trio Jesse Palmer and Sam Fisher, who were previously listed at Port Adelaide and Sydney, respectively, and Mason Blakey trained with Carlton leading into the drafts.

Former Saint Hugh Goddard and ex-Demon Tom Bugg became Blues in last week's rookie draft after training at Ikon Park.

That leaves the Giants, Demons and Bulldogs with one vacancy apiece.

Among the players in the mix could be multiple state league medallists Mick Gibbons, Mitch Grigg and Jye Bolton, Casey Demon Jay Lockhart, key-position prospect Hayden McLean, who trained at St Kilda, and late-blooming South Fremantle onballer Marlion Pickett.

There is also a chance clubs will keep a spot up their sleeve for next year's mid-season rookie draft, but industry sources say it is unlikely any team would enter the season one player short.

Could McLean be worth a crack? 197cm forward who can pinch hit in the ruck and apparently a good shot on goal. I know a few here have been worried about the amount of height we have had go out of the team.

I would be keen on Mitch Grigg too (if he is a solid citizen). At absolute worst he is a great pickup for Footscray (both in playing ability and experience) and some added midfield depth for the 1's.

[bulldogtragic]

Could McLean be worth a crack? 197cm forward who can pinch hit in the ruck and apparently a good shot on goal. I know a few here have been worried about the amount of height we have had go out of the team.

I would be keen on Mitch Grigg too (if he is a solid citizen). At absolute worst he is a great pickup for Footscray (both in playing ability and experience) and some added midfield depth for the 1's.

Fox Footy Bio:

Hayden McLean (Sandringham) (197cm)

Age: 19

Position: Forward/ruck

2018 VFL numbers: Averaged 13.2 disposals, 5.2 marks and 10.3 hit outs

Like Jok, McLean has been training with St Kilda in the hope to earn a spot on the club’s senior or rookie list. Unlucky to be overlooked at last year’s draft, McLean — who has been compared to Josh Jenkins because of his stature and goalkicking ability — is hoping a year proving himself in the VFL system will attract recruiters. Has also been linked to the Demons.


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2018

13 games (bests 7 times, inc. 3 X BOG)
9 goals, 3 behinds
29 contested marks

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(Upon signing at the Sandringham Zebras): Hayden McLean (Sandringham Dragons): “Hayden will play forward and he can jump into the ruck too. He captained the Dragons in 2017 so he has leadership qualities, and he moves really well for a big guy. By all reports he was reasonably unlucky not to get drafted last year.”

[The Adelaide Connection]

Fox Footy Bio:

Hayden McLean (Sandringham) (197cm)

Age: 19

Position: Forward/ruck

2018 VFL numbers: Averaged 13.2 disposals, 5.2 marks and 10.3 hit outs

Like Jok, McLean has been training with St Kilda in the hope to earn a spot on the club’s senior or rookie list. Unlucky to be overlooked at last year’s draft, McLean — who has been compared to Josh Jenkins because of his stature and goalkicking ability — is hoping a year proving himself in the VFL system will attract recruiters. Has also been linked to the Demons.


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2018

13 games (bests 7 times, inc. 3 X BOG)
9 goals, 3 behinds
29 contested marks

Seems worth a rookie spot, that's for sure. He was also the Sandrigham Dragon's captain and part of the Metro leadership group last year (with Coffield, Garner, and Rayner).