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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
That’s a very strange reckoning. Contracting into same money to turn his back on this contract, which is his big one. Reckons? Or has sources confirming? And Hawthorn have to beat our pick 6 offer to Port. That reckon defies a bit of logic.
Yeah not sure I'd take anything Jay Clarke says too seriously. He seems like a Bigfooty poster with a media accreditation.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
FrediKanoute
Strange decision to join he Hawks. Yes top 4 in 2018, but seriously their list is a mess and they will crash over the next years to rebuild. Topping up with players like Wingard will see them avoid a complete bottom out, but they are not going to win a flag in the next 5 years. Why as a player would you waste your time?
I think we need to understand that players are not really equipped for list analysis.
If Clark sells the dream, he won't care what anyone thinks.
We need to convince him that we can provide the success.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Greystache
Yeah not sure I'd take anything Jay Clarke says too seriously. He seems like a Bigfooty poster with a media accreditation.
He's just missing mentioned Schoenmakers as the fair trade...
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Re: The Chad Thread
If Wingard wants to be a permanent midfielder then Hawthorn makes sense as their midfield depth is close to non-existant.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Clarkson has a lot of pull
The curse is dead.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Big club, play big matches on the MCG, get set with better chances for media career post footy if he wants, better support for indigenous players, lots of reasons he could pick.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Greystache
Yeah not sure I'd take anything Jay Clarke says too seriously. He seems like a Bigfooty poster with a media accreditation.
He said Wallis was going to Brisbane - gets a lot wrong
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Throughandthrough
Jay Clarke is a flog
What are you hearing? Is he staying? Going?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
azabob
What are you hearing? Is he staying? Going?
Jay Clarke to Breitbart Sport on a three year deal, for small McCafe coffee.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Jay Clarke to Breitbart Sport on a three year deal, for small McCafe coffee.
They’re overpaying with that offer, desperados.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: The Chad Thread
If Wingard is our focus and we are confident he wants to come to us then given we are trading pick 6 we should ask for their pick 45 as a sweetener in the deal. An extra pick could be handy for us with Khamis
If Port weren't keen to add that to the trade then perhaps we could look at a deal with the Crows swapping our pick 6 for their pick 9 and something else.
Port still get a top 10 pick for Wingard from us but they are now picking behind their arch enemy in a strong SA draft. I think Port would comfortably hand us their pick 45 in a deal for Wingard
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
If Wingard is our focus and we are confident he wants to come to us then given we are trading pick 6 we should ask for their pick 45 as a sweetener in the deal. An extra pick could be handy for us with Khamis
Agree 100%. Port will get pick 6 off us and another good pick for Polec - they may not even want to use pick 45 if they can snag 4 picks in the top 30.
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Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
If Wingard is our focus and we are confident he wants to come to us then given we are trading pick 6 we should ask for their pick 45 as a sweetener in the deal. An extra pick could be handy for us with Khamis
If Port weren't keen to add that to the trade then perhaps we could look at a deal with the Crows swapping our pick 6 for their pick 9 and something else.
Port still get a top 10 pick for Wingard from us but they are now picking behind their arch enemy in a strong SA draft. I think Port would comfortably hand us their pick 45 in a deal for Wingard
Completely agree. After shuffling that's pick 50 or so. Even if we hand back 66 if push came to shove. That's about 200 extra points.
I've been playing with a complex trade, but haven't finished the fine details but I've got this far:
Port get pick 10 for Polac
Dogs trade Port pick 6 for pick 10
Port take Rozee & Hately at the draft
Dogs use pick 10 before West
Dogs hand over 2019 1st rounder
Dogs swap Port 3rd for 4th rounder this year (45 for 60, about 200 extra points)
Port swap Dogs 3rd for 4th rounder next year (Port stocking up next year, see below)
Wash up:
Port: Upgrade pick 10 into pick 6 to get a gun local kid, also take another first rounder into next year (maybe 8-12), salary cap free for Lycett, equal later swaps over both years - Wingard
Dogs: Wingard - Downgrade pick 6 down to pick 10, for West or before ideally, give 2019 first rounder, equal later swaps over both years
Port would have picks 6, 9, 21, 27 & 46 plus Lycett. So bringing in 6 players at least. A swap of 45 to 60 works for us, and works for them in that they might not use 46. So they get an extra good third rounder next year, a good balance for them having two first rounders, a second rounder, and two third rounders.
Taking out reciprocal later swaps, we give them an upgrade of pick 10 into pick 6 this year for a gun SA kid, plus likely pick 8-12 next year. So a first rounder next year plus a significant first round upgrade into the top 10 this year.
Still working on it. Happy for feedback.
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Re: The Chad Thread
To be fair to Clark, if he's just offering his opinion, then given the ability of the respective clubs to attract players and make big trades actually happen, he's entitled to think that Hawthorn would beat us out.
But he's still a dickhead.
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