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01-10-2018, 05:03 PM
#196
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
How many kids do we need? We are already the youngest list in the comp with West and Buku to come. I'd argue we are desperate for a quality 21-26 year old.
On the flip side, we are unlikely to 'challenge' next year so from a forecasting perspective maybe we are better off taking Pick 6 to the draft, getting another year into our list and then look to trade for an established star at the end of next year.
Arguments to be made for both.
I thought our acquisition of Schache was a great move last year, he is a player with plenty of upside and young enough so that we can hopefully have a long career with us. It's why I'm more open to getting someone that has been in the system for a couple of years but still has his best football in front of him.
Wingard is a very good player but he is a better option for us if we feel we can get back on track next year not in two or three years time.
Wingard might be able to kick 40 goals for us which would be huge if we are going to be contenders next season.
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01-10-2018, 05:47 PM
#197
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Wingard is a very good player but he is a better option for us if we feel we can get back on track next year not in two or three years time.
Both scenarios are not mutually exclusive - at 25yo, Wingard can impact both immediately and in 3+ years' time
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01-10-2018, 06:05 PM
#198
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Both scenarios are not mutually exclusive - at 25yo, Wingard can impact both immediately and in 3+ years' time
We have to convince him we will be playing finals next year, otherwise why would he want to come to a club and wait for 3 years.
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01-10-2018, 06:13 PM
#199
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We have to convince him we will be playing finals next year, otherwise why would he want to come to a club and wait for 3 years.
Get him to read that thing by the preeminent afel journo, Barrett, last week. Dogs & Wingard = finals so he says. And I always believe him, so The Chad should too.
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01-10-2018, 07:15 PM
#200
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Both scenarios are not mutually exclusive - at 25yo, Wingard can impact both immediately and in 3+ years' time
To me it's more about if we should be investing the big money contract into a player two or three years before we can become a genuine chance.
If we believe we will be a genuine contender within 12 months then no problems but to me this is all about how we gauge our list and our chances for next season.
We are coming from a fair way back and just need to have an honest assessment on where we actually are
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01-10-2018, 07:20 PM
#201
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We have to convince him we will be playing finals next year, otherwise why would he want to come to a club and wait for 3 years.
That's the way I see it, we need to be confident that we are in a window where we will play some finals by 2020.
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01-10-2018, 07:39 PM
#202
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
To me it's more about if we should be investing the big money contract into a player two or three years before we can become a genuine chance.
If we believe we will be a genuine contender within 12 months then no problems but to me this is all about how we gauge our list and our chances for next season.
We are coming from a fair way back and just need to have an honest assessment on where we actually are
Agree wholeheartedly if Wingard was 28yo, but at his age he is a rolled gold investment for both the inmediate future and the long term
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01-10-2018, 07:50 PM
#203
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
To me it's more about if we should be investing the big money contract into a player two or three years before we can become a genuine chance.
If we believe we will be a genuine contender within 12 months then no problems but to me this is all about how we gauge our list and our chances for next season.
We are coming from a fair way back and just need to have an honest assessment on where we actually are
Good call. We might also be better placed to wait (if we can't extend Bont now) so we can ensure we are well placed to offer him a contract he can't refuse.
I tend to believe we are a good chance to play finals next year and recruiting Wingard simply adds to that. We should however be live to the fact that players like Naughton, Richards, Williams etc may not have as impactful years so there's a chance we see a bit of a dip based on the output from a few younger players who had pretty solid campaigns.
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01-10-2018, 07:56 PM
#204
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
if we can't extend Bont
I've learnt to emotionally dissociate myself from connection to players, but if this were to happen I'd give up footy.
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01-10-2018, 08:27 PM
#205
Re: The Chad Thread
Watching Fox Footy for the first time in quite some time - getting the feeling this Wingard thing has fizzled out.
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01-10-2018, 08:44 PM
#206
Re: The Chad Thread
This just reeks of Wingard wanting port to pony up more cash with a new contract .
I’m neither here nor there, as Hurley did the exact same thing
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01-10-2018, 08:51 PM
#207
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01-10-2018, 09:37 PM
#208
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Remi Moses
This just reeks of Wingard wanting port to pony up more cash with a new contract .
I’m neither here nor there, as Hurley did the exact same thing
Not an unreasonable summary, though I think with Hurley he may have genuinely been on the hook and extenuating circumstances surrounding salary cap leniency yanked him from it.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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01-10-2018, 09:44 PM
#209
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
The Pie Man
Watching Fox Footy for the first time in quite some time - getting the feeling this Wingard thing has fizzled out.
If you were watching AFL360 , it was Robbo who said Wingard is going nowhere, however his manager refuted the claim. Robbo being stubborn, obviously is continuing on with it/
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01-10-2018, 09:56 PM
#210
Re: The Chad Thread
Originally Posted by
Remi Moses
This just reeks of Wingard wanting port to pony up more cash with a new contract .
I’m neither here nor there, as Hurley did the exact same thing
Doesn't he still have a year on his current contract?
Good to have you back too, Remi.
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