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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
    It is a joke. I can see some huge issues with this.
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
    I guess the only function it now serves is for putting someone straight in front when they mark in the square versus in Row Z when they mark 1cm out of the square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
    To help the umpires work out where to line up the free kicks from
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
    I imagine because it determines when it's play on. I assume that as soon as the player kicking out leaves the square the umpire will call play on, but not before. Otherwise you are pushing the man on the mark back 5 metres at the start only to delay his sprint at the player kicking out.
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    So no more ball ups when your foot is on the line?

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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    There one or two decent changes but the rest are overreactions
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Will the hands in the back be equal for defenders?
    Can the fullback hold his ground and mark the ball or will it be bias towards the forward.
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Good discussion here on effects of rule changes
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Good discussion here on effects of rule changes
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    So now we're getting a 'Wildcard Round' too.



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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by boydogs View Post
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    Try this : https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=378182
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    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Thanks for sharing that BAD. I think the data and discussion backs a lot of what many of us think.

    What resonated with me was the acknowledgement that coaches are inherently defencive - which is what a lot of us already know - and that they'll stop scoring first. This is my issue with the interchange cap, and the intent to reduce it further and fatigue players more. If you fatigue players they just won't run forward, the default position or first priority will be defend, the secondary priority will be to get it going the other way.

    The 666 as it sits is a soft introduction to permanent zoning of the field, which is something I think needs to be considered if we are hell bent on intervening with rule changes (and you can make an argument whether we should be either way but it's not really one I want to worry about given the AFL IS hell bent on rule changes so we're stuck with them), and outside of that you need to find a way to incentivise high scoring (I think Leigh Matthews has been reading all the positive opinions about him on WOOF recently, as he's now adopted this idea which is something I've been banging on about for a while).

    You can say that an incentive to score more benefits teams at Docklands under the roof, but there's multiple tenants resulting in a lower home ground advantage, while the ground is smaller and more easily congested than other grounds. Other teams enjoy larger grounds and a home ground advantage, so I reckon it would probably balance out but you wouldn't know without trying it.

    People say a reduction in on-field numbers would possibly help things, but I'm not entirely convinced it will on the smaller grounds in the competition, while teams will congest the defencive area with the same numbers they do anyway but will have less options when transitioning forward.

    Well worth a listen and I think demonstrates why dedicated extended segments drilling down into issues have a lot of value compared to the three or four minutes football media usually spends on each topic in normal programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Well worth a listen and I think demonstrates why dedicated extended segments drilling down into issues have a lot of value compared to the three or four minutes football media usually spends on each topic in normal programming.
    I enjoyed the discussion and backs up what I have said all along. No rule changes will ever make the game look like what you want it to look like. We have a bunch of old farts who want to replicate footy from the 80s, but you know what you just cant do it.

    We have to leave the game develop on it's own, as it continues to evolve with new strategy, with human beings becoming faster, taller, stronger.

    The AFL just don't get it.
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