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Re: Rating The Trade Period 2018
Our social media was openly talking about Wingard. That's not pissing into the wind at all.
It's a side point. But we put out first round currency and good money for the industry to see, and still couldnt organise a big name player in a brothel.
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I'd rate it as uninspiring.
If we had a long term plan we were working towards leading into this year's trade period, it did not seem well articulated. Wingard seemed an opportunistic attempt..which I feel we clumsily handled.
On paper we look a less balanced team than we were going in. Furthermore we did not manage to leverage Adams into a better outcome. I'd have preferred to keep him given he still had 2 years.
I'd be interested to see how bt assesses our current picks based on likeky bids for West and Khamis.
Is 27 a waste still, now that we have 32?
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I'll reserve judgement until all the pick swapping and draft is done. Ultimately we've gone heavy on the draft and traded in no one of real note so it'll depend on what kind of players we pick up and if we can use the F/S system to our advantage at all.
If 27 is used on West I'll be very frustrated.
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Re: Rating The Trade Period 2018
Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
I'd rate it as uninspiring.
If we had a long term plan we were working towards leading into this year's trade period, it did not seem well planned. Wingard seemed an opportunistic attempt..which I feel we clumsily handled.
On paper we look a less balanced team than we were going in. Furthermore we did not manage to leverage Adams into a better outcome. I'd have preferred to keep him given he still had 2 years.
I'd be interested to see how bt assesses our current picks based on likeky bids for West and Khamis.
Is 27 a waste still, now that we have 32?
West will suck up 27 most likely in its totality. If we are lucky that's where it stops. If West goes higher then 32 will slide down the order. But I think 32 will be a live pick assuming Khamis comes in later. I have to guess that Power took the offer to the recruiters and they like something around the mark. Like it enough to hand over Adams for them.
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Let’s see how Lloyd and Dureya go. We’ve been pretty good at bringing in fringe players and getting value from them. Pity we did not get Wingard however nice to keep pick 7 and our 2019 first. Roughy looks spent and we did the right thing by him letting him play elsewhere. After draft night I think we will be smiling. I am fascinated about whether we keep Honey and Campbell. Hoping no for Honey, and if no mature VFL rucks better than Campbell possibly keep him.
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Originally Posted by
josie
Let’s see how Lloyd and Dureya go. We’ve been pretty good at bringing in fringe players and getting value from them. Pity we did not get Wingard however nice to keep pick 7 and our 2019 first. Roughy looks spent and we did the right thing by him letting him play elsewhere. After draft night I think we will be smiling. I am fascinated about whether we keep Honey and Campbell. Hoping no for Honey, and if no mature VFL rucks better than Campbell possibly keep him.
If honey remains on the list, I’m changing my E to an almighty F
I will never see #16 the same!!
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Originally Posted by
hujsh
I'll reserve judgement until all the pick swapping and draft is done. Ultimately we've gone heavy on the draft and traded in no one of real note so it'll depend on what kind of players we pick up and if we can use the F/S system to our advantage at all.
If 27 is used on West I'll be very frustrated.
Sydney are in the same boat as us. They almost own pick 30-40 to abuse the draft points system. We didn't do much of it for whatever reason.
If West goes at about 18, then 27 is wiped out.
Pick 32 is used live.
Say Khamis bids in at 35, then that wipes out or nearly wipes out 45 & 63.
At this stage, my bet from the draft analysis posted on here and media is:
Pick 7 - Maybe a King brother
Pick 27 - West
Pick 32 - Another kid
Picks 45 & 63 - Khamis
Pick 75 - Pass
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DOG GOD
If honey remains on the list, I’m changing my E to an almighty F
Kind of with you on the sentiment. There must be some kid or state league player worth a punt in Honey's spot.
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OK. I've had several seconds to think about it.
And I posted something recently about my predictions/hopes so I'll stand by that.
Dalhaus out. good for list balance. Compensation? a little under, but not criminal.
Adams out? good for list balance. Compensation? a little under, but not utterly criminal.
Roughead out? This I really don't understand. for pick 75? I just think we're a better club, team, and place with Roughy around.
This is me seriously questioning Beveridge's judgement. For the first time openly and publicly. I think this is wrong.
Missing out on Wingard, May and whoever else we may have been linked to? I don't care.
I'm happy to go to the draft with pick 7, and my prediction is that we will never regret it.
Hawks paid over for Wingard in the end.
Melbourne got a SWEET deal to get May and Kolij.......etc. But....... we really didn't need those types.
So............ really a very bland experience overall, but..........not the disaster some people are calling it.
And........on Marcus Adams, if you recorded the last game in Ballarat dogs v power, you might suddenly cheer up a bit about that trade.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Sydney are in the same boat as us. They almost own pick 30-40 to abuse the draft points system. We didn't do much of it for whatever reason.
If West goes at about 18, then 27 is wiped out.
Pick 32 is used live.
Say Khamis bids in at 35, then that wipes out or nearly wipes out 45 & 63.
At this stage, my bet from the draft analysis posted on here and media is:
Pick 7 - Maybe a King brother
Pick 27 - West
Pick 32 - Another kid
Picks 45 & 63 - Khamis
Pick 75 - Pass
It's not the worst outcome but... not inspiring either.
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Power quoted as saying our aim was to improve our draft position during this period...
... I could have sworn the club was saying it’s object was to add experience to the list - not become younger - after our loss to Richmond.
So what are we doing? Rebuilding? 2 years after a flag with what was one of the youngest lists to win a premiership? Awesome.
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I'll rate it much higher once we sign Bont to a long term deal and get Libba re-contracted.
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Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Power quoted as saying our aim was to improve our draft position during this period...
... I could have sworn the club was saying it’s object was to add experience to the list - not become younger - after our loss to Richmond.
So what are we doing? Rebuilding? 2 years after a flag with what was one of the youngest lists to win a premiership? Awesome.
I think Bevo meant everyone would be a year older next year
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Made out like Bandits with the Adams deal, the future third was great for a bloke who struggles to get on the park.
Lloyd and Duryea add experience and hopefully a brilliant work ethic.
I give us a C, we have a good hand at the draft and can add some real talent.
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Originally Posted by
josie
Let’s see how Lloyd and Dureya go. We’ve been pretty good at bringing in fringe players and getting value from them. Pity we did not get Wingard however nice to keep pick 7 and our 2019 first. Roughy looks spent and we did the right thing by him letting him play elsewhere. After draft night I think we will be smiling. I am fascinated about whether we keep Honey and Campbell. Hoping no for Honey, and if no mature VFL rucks better than Campbell possibly keep him.
Campbell hopefully we see him get more of a chance now next year. See what he can do. Just hasn't had enough games.
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