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  1. #151
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    Re: Draft Machinations

    A quick question and sorry if it’s been asked before; if a bid comes soon for Rhylre do we have to use our next available pick (currently 30) to get him ? Even though 35 may have enough points?
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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    After Night 1 there are still plenty of fantastic players to choose from and we have 3 picks in the next 20. A great position to be in.

    Still on the board;

    Hill, Valente, Taylor, Briggs, McKenzie, Sparrow, Kositchke, McLennan, Stack, Turner, Kennerley, Williams, Bowman, Gown et al

    Twomey has linked us to Turner and Reynolds as possible selections
    Haven't seen much of them but I'd be happy with Sparrow or Stack.
    I like the idea of an indigenous kid this year if only to help Ugle-Hagen's welcome at the club in a year or two.
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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Quote Originally Posted by josie View Post
    Is it Bailey Williams who looks like a promising ruck forward (dodgy kicking for goal)? Does anyone think he is on our radar? If English or Trengrove are injured and presuming Boyd plays mainly forward this could be a need. Also having 4 Baileys is surely better than 3.
    We need a ruckman and another key forward but we might have some other plans
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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Scraggers View Post
    A quick question and sorry if it’s been asked before; if a bid comes soon for Rhylre do we have to use our next available pick (currently 30) to get him ? Even though 35 may have enough points?
    Next available. Hence Sydney traded away a pick in the 20s prior to a Blakey bid, then after the bid and matching, trading one back in.
    Nice little loophole in the system.
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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Remi Moses View Post
    Itís interesting . Remember way back in the early 90ís might have been James Cook wrote to clubs saying he wouldnít go there
    Didn't Pyman do the same thing because he wanted to get to Collingwood? Chalmers as well i think

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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    After Night 1 there are still plenty of fantastic players to choose from and we have 3 picks in the next 20. A great position to be in.

    Still on the board;

    Hill, Valente, Taylor, Briggs, McKenzie, Sparrow, Kositchke, McLennan, Stack, Turner, Kennerley, Williams, Bowman, Gown et al

    Twomey has linked us to Turner and Reynolds as possible selections
    If we can manufacture Smith, Taylor, West and Khamis from this draft Iíll be over the moon.

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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Some talk on Twitter that is and the kangaroos are circling SANFL ruck Jordan Sweet.

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    Re: Draft Machinations

    How's this one

    Being vague (on purpose)

    I'm aware of a de-listed AFL player that has been spoken to by some SANFL sides, one is particularly keen and so is he

    HOWEVER, there's an AFL club that has said that they have a spot for him on their list under that new stupid re-drafting rule and MAY sign him in a few months if he goes well. the SANFL club involved (not Glenelg) is aware, what do they do?


    There's a conflict of interest there for the SANFL side, they obviously want the best from the player, and the player wants the best from himself, but they ae two different paths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throughandthrough View Post
    How's this one

    Being vague (on purpose)

    I'm aware of a de-listed AFL player that has been spoken to by some SANFL sides, one is particularly keen and so is he

    HOWEVER, there's an AFL club that has said that they have a spot for him on their list under that new stupid re-drafting rule and MAY sign him in a few months if he goes well. the SANFL club involved (not Glenelg) is aware, what do they do?


    There's a conflict of interest there for the SANFL side, they obviously want the best from the player, and the player wants the best from himself, but they ae two different paths
    And with the AFL introducing a mid season draft in 2019 its only going to get a lot more challenging for feeder leagues and itís Clubs.

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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc26 View Post
    feeder leagues
    They would dispute that assertion which is half the problem
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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    Re: Draft Machinations

    Good analysis from Callum Twomey of the different machinations.

    On Pick 7_

    The Bulldogs' No.7 choice was a draft shaper. They had come down to a decision between midfielders Bailey Smith and Jye Caldwell, but other clubs sensed an opportunity to get up the order. A week before the draft the Crows and Giants approached the Dogs to see if they could move up from pick eight and nine respectively.

    Clubs knew Smith was keener to stay in Victoria than move interstate, so there was a chance for the Dogs to push back a spot or two and still take him, while also getting a bonus late pick for their trouble.

    The only way the Bulldogs would have moved back was if they could have ensured they still picked up Smith, who they had slightly ahead of Caldwell due to his ability to play multiple positions and because of his elite running ability.

    If the Dogs had taken Caldwell, Smith would have gotten past Adelaide and the Giants, and Port Adelaide would not have drafted him either.

    It's why Richmond, who started the draft back at pick 17, were in touch with Port Adelaide on draft day and were monitoring the situation if Smith became available. A trade offer for Port's second pick was likely if Smith slipped past the Dogs. Geelong, too, was watching things closely.

    But Smith didn't drop. Adelaide's call between Chayce Jones and Caldwell was tight, but it worked in the favour of the Giants, who were tempted to move up to pick seven to get Caldwell but on draft day decided they wouldn't do that. They liked him, a lot, and wanted him, a lot, but were going to hold firm.
    Full article here
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    Interesting article. It's a shame there is no mention of what we were trying to do either late in the first round or early in the second. From Power's and Austin's comments it seemed we tried to get a pick prior to the West pick.

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