Welcome to the Bulldogs: Jordon Sweet

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Why would he say he has had a deal on the table if it isn't true?

Clarified my comment. I've no doubt there's a deal but I don't think we rate him. He's there as insurance in case English gets injured.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Don't think that's relevant as Lobb and Sweet play different roles. You might say play English in the Lobb role and ruck Sweet but clearly the club considers English a ruck first and foremost so that's who Sweet is competing with for a spot.

There was no chance Sweet plays once Lobb came. We would never play English, Lobb and Sweet in the same side. We were even choosing to play Darcy as an extra tall.

[macca]

There was no chance Sweet plays once Lobb came. We would never play English, Lobb and Sweet in the same side. We were even choosing to play Darcy as an extra tall.

Sweet is going to be behind 3 players now.

His a back up ruckman. Not sure if he is comfortable with that or seeks greater opportunity. I would be surprised if his still on our list next year.

[hujsh]

There was no chance Sweet plays once Lobb came. We would never play English, Lobb and Sweet in the same side. We were even choosing to play Darcy as an extra tall.

Do you actually think that changed once Lobb came across though? Personally I think Sweet was not getting a look in unless English was injured or unable to ruck for some reason. We'd just have seen Hannan, Khamis, Darcy and others rotate through that second ruck role more often.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Do you actually think that changed once Lobb came across though? Personally I think Sweet was not getting a look in unless English was injured or unable to ruck for some reason. We'd just have seen Hannan, Khamis, Darcy and others rotate through that second ruck role more often.

True. It probably didn't change but it was just one extra message sent. Sam is just trying to up the asking price but everything we've seen clearly suggests we don't intend to play Sweet at AFL level unless we have no other choice.

[jazzadogs]

From the Gettable Vodcast"

Sam Power

Don't see any issue with this quote. It's just facts?
He has had a really good year at vfl level.
He is sitting behind the All Australian ruck.
We do want to keep him - a quality back up is a great strategy. Tom Campbell, Dan Currie and plenty of others have 10+ year careers out of it.

[whythelongface]

Well of course he'll say that to drive a hard bargain! We never play him and went and recruited Lobb so clearly don't rate him. I'm surprised we offered him a deal tbh. Wouldn't blame Jordan for taking unders elsewhere. We seem to think we can treat players poorly and still expect them to sign on with us. Didn't work with Dunkley or Young and won't work with Sweet.

Are we any different from other clubs in this regard? I wouldn?t think so. I don?t get the treated poorly line - rather lack of opportunities. This happens everywhere and for whatever reason some players don?t get a gig in the firsts team. Look at Baker or Poulter they have found spots with us but it just didn?t work out for them with their previous clubs. Swings and roundabouts.

[macca]

Don't see any issue with this quote. It's just facts?
He has had a really good year at vfl level.
He is sitting behind the All Australian ruck.
We do want to keep him - a quality back up is a great strategy. Tom Campbell, Dan Currie and plenty of others have 10+ year careers out of it.

I like to keep Sweet for potential to be one club Eker royalty

[Danjul]

There was no chance Sweet plays once Lobb came. We would never play English, Lobb and Sweet in the same side. We were even choosing to play Darcy as an extra tall.

I don?t think it was sensible to play Darcy in a contact role so early. Too much chance he would be injured, so not surprised that it kept happening.

[Danjul]

Do you actually think that changed once Lobb came across though? Personally I think Sweet was not getting a look in unless English was injured or unable to ruck for some reason. We'd just have seen Hannan, Khamis, Darcy and others rotate through that second ruck role more often.

That hitout that Khamis got a few weeks ago was a thing of beauty. Won?t be repeated often in our lifetime.

[Go_Dogs]

Don't see any issue with this quote. It's just facts?
He has had a really good year at vfl level.
He is sitting behind the All Australian ruck.
We do want to keep him - a quality back up is a great strategy. Tom Campbell, Dan Currie and plenty of others have 10+ year careers out of it.

Yep. There are worse ways to earn $300k+ per year…

No issue with the comment either. Sweet is a good back up option for first ruck, and with Lobb’s age, Darcy’s injury history in his short career and English out of contract next year there are worse things we could do than keep him for another two years.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I'm more than happy to keep Sweet. I just don't think Sweet is dumb enough to hang around. But then again ruckman don't seem to make the best career decisions.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Why would he say he has had a deal on the table if it isn't true?

The issue I see. Why would he say we had a deal on the table for ?a year? this lets all other clubs know that he is gettable. They will chase hard and with anyone I. Competitive sport. You want to go to the dance not sit on the sidelines. Sweet knows (like we do) he can play. But he has seen Schacke, Young, etc on the same roundabout as himself

I like Sweet a lot and hope he stays but gets an opportunity to be number one ruck with Tim centre half forward.

[hujsh]

The issue I see. Why would he say we had a deal on the table for ?a year? this lets all other clubs know that he is gettable. They will chase hard and with anyone I. Competitive sport. You want to go to the dance not sit on the sidelines. Sweet knows (like we do) he can play. But he has seen Schacke, Young, etc on the same roundabout as himself

I like Sweet a lot and hope he stays but gets an opportunity to be number one ruck with Tim centre half forward.

Because all other clubs already know he's gettable. His management would be out there selling him as a ready and waiting number 1 ruck stuck behind the reigning AA champ who's ready to move for opportunity. If he doesn't like the offers (no clubs offering decent playing time or more money or whatever) he knows he's got an offer on the table from the club and that they're happy to keep him.

[bornadog]

If Sweet gets a chance to be number 1 ruck, or regular games somewhere else, I wouldn't blame him.

Back in the 70s, we had Gary Dempsey, one of the all time best AFL ruckman. We also had Barry Round who was also good but couldn't get a crack at it, so he left Footscray and went to Sydney. Ended up with a Brownlow, but no one could blame him for leaving.