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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Originally Posted by
azabob
Ok so it’s only taken me 17 weeks or so to figure this out but on face value we have a fairly strong hand at the draft table?
Yep. Or trade table. I like where we are sitting right now.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Round 18:
1st Rounder - Pick 7 - WBD
2nd Rounder - Pick 25 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 41 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 43 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 45 - Haw (from)
5th Rounder - Pick 79 - WBD
= 7, 25, 41, 43, 45, 79 (& Duryea for pick 61) (Liveladders End of Season Prediction: 8, 26, 41, 44, 46 & 80)
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 45 2019 - equal to just under 1,000 draft points (in play both years) or equivalent to a first round Pick 18 for Adams)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton currently swapping pick 3 for pick 11 with Adelaide - gap is shrinking)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 7)
Editors note: packaging two of the third round picks (41 & 43) is roughly 824 draft points, or around pick 23 (resulting in maybe pick 28-30 range). It might be nice if we could find a suitor for a draft points trade (Port Adelaide at pick 28 may be a suitor with their father/sons) to get into the middle of the second round to use or trade with (Port net an extra 147 draft points). So leaving picks 7, 25, 28, 45 & 79 (plus rookie upgrades and/or free agents) and about $1.6M++ in cap.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Round 19:
1st Rounder - Pick 10 - WBD
2nd Rounder - Pick 28 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 42 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 44 - Haw (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 46 - WBD
5th Rounder - Pick 80 - WBD
= 10, 28, 42, 44, 46, 80 (& Duryea for pick 62) (Liveladders End of Season Prediction: same)
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 44 2019 - equal to about 950 draft points (in play both years) or equivalent to Pick 19 for Adams)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton currently swapping pick 3 for pick 11 with Adelaide - gap is shrinking)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 10)
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Round 20:
1st Rounder - Pick 9 - WBD
2nd Rounder - Pick 27 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 41 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 43 - Haw (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 45 - WBD
5th Rounder - Pick 79 - WBD
= 9, 27, 41, 43, 45, 79 (& Duryea for pick 61) (Liveladders End of Season Prediction: 7, 25, 41, 43, 45, 79)
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 43 2019 - equal to about 960 draft points (in play both years) or equivalent to Pick 18 for Adams)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton currently swapping pick 3 for pick 11 with Adelaide - gap staying shrunken)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 9)
Editors note: packaging two of the third round picks (41 & 43) is roughly 824 draft points, or around pick 23 (resulting in maybe pick 28-30 range). It might be nice if we could find a suitor for a draft points trade (Port Adelaide at pick 28 may be a suitor with their father/sons) to get into the middle of the second round to use or trade with (Port net an extra 147 draft points). So leaving, on liveladders, picks 7, 25, 28, 45 & 79 (plus rookie upgrades and/or free agents) and about $1.6M++ in cap. Much more if Morris, Dicko & Suckling retire. Picks and salary cap to be deliberately very, very aggressive with.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Round 20:
1st Rounder - Pick 9 - WBD
2nd Rounder - Pick 27 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 41 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 43 - Haw (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 45 - WBD
5th Rounder - Pick 79 - WBD
= 9, 27, 41, 43, 45, 79 (& Duryea for pick 61) (Liveladders End of Season Prediction: 7, 25, 41, 43, 45, 79)
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 43 2019 - equal to about 960 draft points (in play both years) or equivalent to Pick 18 for Adams)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton currently swapping pick 3 for pick 11 with Adelaide - gap staying shrunken)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 9)
Editors note: packaging two of the third round picks (41 & 43) is roughly 824 draft points, or around pick 23 (resulting in maybe pick 28-30 range). It might be nice if we could find a suitor for a draft points trade (Port Adelaide at pick 28 may be a suitor with their father/sons) to get into the middle of the second round to use or trade with (Port net an extra 147 draft points). So leaving, on liveladders, picks 7, 25, 28, 45 & 79 (plus rookie upgrades and/or free agents) and about $1.6M++ in cap. Much more if Morris, Dicko & Suckling retire. Picks and salary cap to be deliberately very, very aggressive with.
Amazing thread.
What’s the mail on this years draft? Strength, depth, loaded W Mids/kpps etc?
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Originally Posted by
AshMac
Amazing thread.
What’s the mail on this years draft? Strength, depth, loaded W Mids/kpps etc?
Thanks AshMac. I only know what ive read, so maybe GVGjr can jump in. But it looks heavy on mids and medium forwards/defenders, and that there's not the elite depth like last year. But I can't really substantiate that.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Round 21:
1st Rounder - Pick 9 - WBD
2nd Rounder - Pick 27 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 42 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 44 - Haw (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 45 - WBD
5th Rounder - Pick 81 - WBD
= 9, 27, 42, 44, 45, 81 (& Duryea for pick 63)
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 44 2019 - equal to about 960 draft points (in play both years) or equivalent to Pick 18 for Adams)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton currently swapping pick 3 for pick 10 with Adelaide - gap shrinking again)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 9)
Editors note: packaging two of the third round picks (42 & 45) is 742 draft points, or around pick 25 (resulting in maybe pick 30 range). It might be nice if we could find a suitor for a draft points trade (Port Adelaide at about pick 30 may be a suitor with their father/sons) to get into the middle of the second round to use or trade with (Port net an extra 113 draft points). So leaving picks 9, 27, 30, 44 & 81 (plus rookie upgrades and/or free agents) and about $1.6M++ in cap. Much more if Morris, Dicko & Suckling retire. Picks and salary cap to be deliberately very, very aggressive with.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Originally Posted by
AshMac
Amazing thread.
What’s the mail on this years draft? Strength, depth, loaded W Mids/kpps etc?
Draft watchers seem to think it bats a little deeper this year and expect a few more kids to be picked up compared to last year.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Round 22:
1st Rounder - Pick 11 - WBD (based on ladder position, not winning any/all finals)
2nd Rounder - Pick 29 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 41 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 45 - Haw (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 47 - WBD
5th Rounder - Pick 83 - WBD
= 11, 29, 41, 45, 47, 83 (& Duryea for pick 65, bargain)
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 44 2019 - equal in draft points (in play both years) to Pick 19)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton currently swapping pick 3 for pick 8 with Adelaide - Huge! The gap shrinking again)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 11)
Editors note: packaging two of the third round picks (41 & 45) is 759 draft points, or around pick 25 (resulting in maybe pick 30 range). It might be nice if we could find a suitor for a draft points trade (Port Adelaide at about pick 28 may be a suitor with their father/sons) to get into the middle of the round to use or trade with (Port net an extra 82 draft points - might need a smidge more). So leaving picks 11, 28, 29, 47 & 83 (plus rookie upgrades and/or free agents) and about $1.6M++ in cap. Much more if Morris & Dicko retire and Williams goes. Picks and salary cap to be deliberately very, very aggressive with.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Bring back the biff
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Round 23 - H&A Finished
1st Rounder - Pick 12 - WBD (based on worst case scenario, I.e. Losing)
2nd Rounder - Pick 30 - WBD
3rd Rounder - Pick 41 - StK (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 46 - Haw (from)
3rd Rounder - Pick 48 - WBD
5th Rounder - Pick 84 - WBD
(& Duryea for Pick 66, bargain)
This surprising run of hot form since the bye has clearly resulted in lower draft picks then we were looking at a couple of months ago. But the red hot form gives us another currency to sell to players and their managers: ongoing success. Which is gold too.
(Marcus Adams: Pick 32 2018, & currently Pick 46 2019 - equal in draft points (in play both years) to Pick 20)
(Other interesting trade: Carlton swapping pick 3 for pick 8 with Adelaide)
(Other interesting note: The proposed Wingard trade was for the 2019 1st - currently pick 12)
Editors note: packaging two of the third round picks (41 & 46) is 744 draft points, or around pick 26 (resulting in maybe pick 30 range). It might be nice if we could find a suitor for a draft points trade (Port Adelaide at about pick 27 may be a suitor with their father/sons) to get into the middle of the round to use or trade with (Port net an extra 31 draft points only, so we need more points but could work at it). So leaving picks 12, 27, 30, 48 & 84 (plus rookie upgrades and/or free agents) and about $1.6M++ in cap. Much more if Morris & Dicko retire and Williams goes. Picks and salary cap to be deliberately very, very aggressive with.
Last edited by bulldogtragic; 25-08-2019 at 05:49 PM.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Just a small note:
Essendon being bundled out secures them pick 11 (heading to GWS for Shiel) having finished below us on the ladder.
If we were to lose to GWS our first pick will be pick 12. After our win, I can update the thread after Saturday.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Anyone else think that seems overs for Shiel?
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Just a small note:
Essendon being bundled out secures them pick 11 (heading to GWS for Shiel) having finished below us on the ladder.
If we were to lose to GWS our first pick will be pick 12. After our win, I can update the thread after Saturday.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Originally Posted by
Dancin' Douggy
Anyone else think that seems overs for Shiel?
And pick 9 from last year. Although Dodo gets back pick 30+ this year. Huge dollars too.
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Re: BT's Rolling 2019 Draft Picks Order Thread
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Just a small note:
Essendon being bundled out secures them pick 11 (heading to GWS for Shiel) having finished below us on the ladder.
If we were to lose to GWS our first pick will be pick 12. After our win, I can update the thread after Saturday.
So he went for 2 x pick 11. It's very interesting looking at the outcome of future trades.
GWS got Jye Caldwell with last year's 11. Haven't seen enough of him to judge, but in that draft he's probably good.
Edit : As BT says it's this years second rounder.