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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Players should be able to follow instructions and know what to do anyway. They're supposed to be pros. As much as I can't stand the current AFL leaders I have no issue with keeping these seagulls off the ground.

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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    Players should be able to follow instructions and know what to do anyway. They're supposed to be pros. As much as I can't stand the current AFL leaders I have no issue with keeping these seagulls off the ground.
    If that is the case why have runners at all?

    There are 18 players on the ground and 4 on the bench which is difficult to control. When was the last time a runner actually effected any one of us watching a game?
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Why have them? Help with interchange. Go on ask player to sub next chance, get off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    If that is the case why have runners at all?

    There are 18 players on the ground and 4 on the bench which is difficult to control. When was the last time a runner actually effected any one of us watching a game?
    The last real match played - the GF.

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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Time the AFL admit they made a mistake. After sitting next to the interchange bench yesterday and saw many players frustrated they couldn't get on the ground, I think it is time to re-en state them.

    For the life of me, I don't know why they changed the rule, and don't tell me it is because they were on the ground too long - that can be stopped.
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Time the AFL admit they made a mistake. After sitting next to the interchange bench yesterday and saw many players frustrated they couldn't get on the ground, I think it is time to re-en state them.

    For the life of me, I don't know why they changed the rule, and don't tell me it is because they were on the ground too long - that can be stopped.
    I genuinely don't see the problem If players making multiple hundreds of thousands if dollars cant sort themselves out to come on and off the ground between them then perhaps they should find themselves a proper job. You know, the sort the rest of us have where we have to make decisions and take responsibility for them.

    The senior players should be taking the responsibility. The AFL do plenty of stupid, pigheaded things but this is an issue that should be easily fixed bu player groups.
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Time the AFL admit they made a mistake. After sitting next to the interchange bench yesterday and saw many players frustrated they couldn't get on the ground, I think it is time to re-en state them.

    For the life of me, I don't know why they changed the rule, and don't tell me it is because they were on the ground too long - that can be stopped.
    Are you saying that is solely because of not having runners on the ground? I have seen that happening in recent years as well
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Are you saying that is solely because of not having runners on the ground? I have seen that happening in recent years as well
    I watched the players on the bench yelling and screaming to players on the field, but is was evident they couldn't hear. If we had the runner they could quickly go out and get the message across.

    eg. Dunkley and Wallis were standing there for more than 5 minutes and couldn't get on.
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I watched the players on the bench yelling and screaming to players on the field, but is was evident they couldn't hear. If we had the runner they could quickly go out and get the message across.

    eg. Dunkley and Wallis were standing there for more than 5 minutes and couldn't get on.
    You also noticed Macrae shaking off a request to come off, how does a runner change that?
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    You also noticed Macrae shaking off a request to come off, how does a runner change that?
    I guess if the runner is relaying the message form the coach, they may act differently.
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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I guess if the runner is relaying the message form the coach, they may act differently.
    Or they might just steer clear of the runner when they know what the message is. The runner runs to one side of the ground and the player just runs to the other side. It's a simple way to not get the message and TBH i'd prefer the method we have now without 50, 000 people on the ground clogging up play.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.
    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed.
    And I said "Obie, I don't think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. "
    "He said, "Shut up, kid. Get in the back of the patrol car. "


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    Re: Bevo calls on AFL to reinstate runners before round one

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I guess if the runner is relaying the message form the coach, they may act differently.
    But he may not, these are professional athletes who should be able to make the decision if they should stay on the ground.

    Players coming onto the ground are acting as runners because they are often issuing instructions on how the match-ups should be.
    I've noticed 2 ex Hawks doing it most of the season in Duryea and Suckling when they have been available and of course leaders like Wood, Wallis, Crozier, Dunkley and Bontempelli etc are also delivering messages.

    And while I'm at it, last year I've seen players ready to come back on for 3 or 4 minutes and more but they can't because the ball is on the other side of the ground. A runner won't change that

    I don't think it's as bad as some seem to think. I can however, see why it would frustrate a coach but the challenge for them now is that they need to prepare and educate the players better.

    I know not many people like change but I think the 6 6 6 rule is working and I'm happy enough to give this one with the runners a season to play out.
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