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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Nope not just you. I said the same thing in another thread.
Thanks, I thought I was going mad.
I get the "get off my boy" mentality, but geez that was clear cut.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
What Naughton did last night had absolutely nothing to do with Gowers.
I've been saying this every week for 18 months but he's a bad footballer and we will be better when he isn't playing.
Yet he is 2nd on our goal kicking. Go figure.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Yet he is 2nd on our goal kicking. Go figure.
That's the rub. For all his frustration he still kicks goals in a side bereft of natural goal kicking options.
Right now there is nobody at the lower level who plays a similar way putting their hand up for selection. Our most consistent VFL player this year has been Lipinski playing inside mid.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
I get he's playing a decoy/foil role of sorts so can't purely be measured in terms of statistical output but he's our current posterboy for dumb dumb DUMB acts that snuff out chances and momentum.
We were furiously hard at it last night but mostly SMART in the process.
Fall into line Billy or go sit in the bloody corner.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
See the 13 minute mark of the Geelong Essendon game. Since we tend to compare Gowers and Stringer watch Stringers man drift easily in front of the otherwise 50/50 contest and take a mark. Compare that to the 5:30 mark of the below clip.
Gowers is doing some dumb things but he is also doing some smart things that are unselfish and easy to miss.
Billy Gowers you both rule and suck
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
See the last 30 seconds of the Essendon Geelong game and watch Stringer kick a goal from 60m out after running 20m in about 3 seconds. There is no comparison.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Yet he is 2nd on our goal kicking. Go figure.
And won it last year.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
See the last 30 seconds of the Essendon Geelong game and watch Stringer kick a goal from 60m out after running 20m in about 3 seconds. There is no comparison.
That's not the point. I don't intend to claim Gowers is as talented as Stringer, I'm trying to highlight that he does do some things he doesn't get credit for that are actually unselfish or goes against the perception of him. Things other players don't always do.
That said I don't miss the Stringer that played for us in 2017. I also don't particularly want someone of his character on our list. But lets not turn this into a rehash of previous Stringer threads. That's not what I wanted or what this thread is about.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
hujsh
That's not the point. I don't intend to claim Gowers is as talented as Stringer, I'm trying to highlight that he does do some things he doesn't get credit for that are actually unselfish or goes against the perception of him. Things other players don't always do.
That said I don't miss the Stringer that played for us in 2017. I also don't particularly want someone of his character on our list. But lets not turn this into a rehash of previous Stringer threads. That's not what I wanted or what this thread is about.
I think it's a reasonable comparison albeit Gowers isn't as talented and more importantly he isn't as obnoxious as Stringer.
If Gowers tidies up a few over enthusiastic errors we have a more than decent player on our list.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
hujsh
See the 13 minute mark of the Geelong Essendon game. Since we tend to compare Gowers and Stringer watch Stringers man drift easily in front of the otherwise 50/50 contest and take a mark. Compare that to the 5:30 mark of the below clip.
Gowers is doing some dumb things but he is also doing some smart things that are unselfish and easy to miss.
Billy Gowers you both rule and suck
I don't understand. The only thing I see Billy do at 5.30 is stand and watch the Bont take a mark. He doesn't block or shepherd or make an option.
Am I missing something? (Seriously)
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
I don't understand. The only thing I see Billy do at 5.30 is stand and watch the Bont take a mark. He doesn't block or shepherd or make an option.
Am I missing something? (Seriously)
Gowers runs across to block Balta from having an effect on the marking contest.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Gowers runs across to block Balta from having an effect on the marking contest.
I thought for a moment that he was going to give away a free for shepherding. It was good play.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
I don't understand. The only thing I see Billy do at 5.30 is stand and watch the Bont take a mark. He doesn't block or shepherd or make an option.
Am I missing something? (Seriously)
He runs into the road of 38 so he can't quire reach the Bont. It's subtle work but deliberate.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Geez we're setting a low bar here.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Geez we're setting a low bar here.
I agree.
F50 pressure is an issue, and Gowers isn’t helping enough.
I can see his strengths, but he is a poor set shot, doesn’t have enough second efforts and also does dumb things!
If he’s the answer, what the heck is the question?