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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Mofra
He was delisted by Carlton after playing as a defender.
I agree with the thrust of what you're saying but is this really a good litmus test?
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
ledge
He is the replacement to Stringer and if you compare the two they are very similar in doing the amazing but we got the better deal as Billy won’t die not trying, he is fit,he wants to be successful and is fully committed, I think if we looked at stats since the Stringer move , Gowers would be ahead in everything.
Not a bad deal when Billy came as cheap as chips.
I don’t regret the clubs decision at all.
More to spend in the cap and a better consistent player.
The stats are pretty tight last year, but Stringer shades Gowers across the board. Being in a better side definitely helped Jake.
From the same number of games, Stringer:
-Had 37 more touches
-Kicked 30 goals to Gowers' 26
-Laid 13 more tackles
-Had 6 more goal assists
-Gave away 10 less free kicks and won 5 more than Billy
-They took the same number of marks inside fifty, but Stringer was better around the footy, winning 25 more clearances.
Stringer was obviously in the better side and has played nearly 100 more games at AFL level. It'll be very interesting watching their careers progress – the stats are remarkably similar.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
If Billy kicks two goals a week, I am sure we will all be more than happy.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
Mofra
He was delisted by Carlton after playing as a defender.
We lack goal sense as a team, anyone with real goal sense needs to be played forward.
We're also stacked for medium defenders.
For sure and yes we have an abundance of defenders.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Lots of love for Billy this week.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Agree comrade. Thought he was really good. His kicking for goal has improved as well. I like the unpredictability of Billy - this translates to the opposition not knowing what to expect from him. He is very hard to match up against as he can lead as well as take pack marks. He really does provide a bit of X-factor that every team needs.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
comrade
Lots of love for Billy this week.
Definitely we got Awesome Billy on the weekend.
His goal-kicking in particular looked solid.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
whythelongface
Agree comrade. Thought he was really good. His kicking for goal has improved as well. I like the unpredictability of Billy - this translates to the opposition not knowing what to expect from him. He is very hard to match up against as he can lead as well as take pack marks. He really does provide a bit of X-factor that every team needs.
He plays with confidence which is extremely important for a forward and especially for one with a lot of X-factor since they need to back themselves to get it done.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
We need Billy to apply more pressure in the forward line. He had zero tackles on the weekend, compared with Naughton's 4 and Mclean's and Dickson 4 each.
His kicking was better this week and hopefully he continues it.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
He's still pretty raw and evidently learning how to be useful when he doesn't have the pill.
He's got a little of that Clay Smith / Jack Redpath knack for tackling to hurt so if he can become another effective hunter inside the forward arc we'll be much better for it.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
I'm a BG fan as long as he converts his opportunities or makes opps for others to convert - preferably BOTH. If not I will go off him pretty quickly. A forward's job is to kick goals, not burn his team mates. That being said BG does provide physical presence which is always handy in a forward line mix.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
That last quarter is one of my favourites, ever. I’ve watched it a few times, watching it again. Gowers got in the head of Cicily big time. Time and time again Gowers was giving a 100% arm swing as if to punch/round arm Cicily in the guts, but would pull back and not make contact. And getting in his face and chirping at him... yada, yada, yada... Cicily gives a round arm free to Schache, and chirps the umpire giving Gowers a goal.
I hope Cicily is charging Gowers rent, because Gowers lives in his head.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Now career at:
22 Games
31 Goals
23 Behinds
10 Goals Assists
59 Inside 50's
Av. 12.5 touches, 4 marks, 2 tackles
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
When you compare him with Stringer , which he is pretty much the replacement , we get a bloke who is probably paid 300,000 a year less and I believe has more heart and tank than Stringer will get to. We are the winner.
I wonder if the media would admit that Essendon didn’t win the deal, it wasn’t the greatest get of all time as they raved on about.
I know who I would take with the choice . Our club made a great decision all round.
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Re: Billy Gowers (BG) You both rule AND suck
Originally Posted by
ledge
When you compare him with Stringer , which he is pretty much the replacement , we get a bloke who is probably paid 300,000 a year less and I believe has more heart and tank than Stringer will get to. We are the winner.
I wonder if the media would admit that Essendon didn’t win the deal, it wasn’t the greatest get of all time as they raved on about.
I know who I would take with the choice . Our club made a great decision all round.
While it didn't always come off I thought Stringer looked to be one of the few with the will or capacity to try and change the game against the Saints last week. He won't be the fantastic mid they sold him as at the time but he doesn't look like he's phoning it in either.