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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by boydogs View Post
    Given his age, no

    For the 2019 season, maybe Gawn
    I don't mind your thinking but if we took Bont out and replaced him with Gawn, would we be better or worse? I'd say worse.
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    The player comparison I often hear is Cripps vs Bontempelli.

    Most work colleagues lean towards Cripps but it's almost line ball
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    If Cripps was as good as Bont Carlton would win more games. That's the influence Bont has when fully fit and firing. Cripps can play a great individual game but there's only so much he can do to drag his team across the line. Bont has found ways to make us win in the past and could probably even find a way to do so at Carlton so his skill and matchwinning ability makes him the better player

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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    If Cripps was as good as Bont Carlton would win more games. That's the influence Bont has when fully fit and firing. Cripps can play a great individual game but there's only so much he can do to drag his team across the line. Bont has found ways to make us win in the past and could probably even find a way to do so at Carlton so his skill and matchwinning ability makes him the better player
    Yeah, Cripps stands out at Carlton because a) he is obviously a jet, b) he is ****ing massive, and c) he has been surrounded by garbage his entire career. Easy to catch the eye (and Brownlow votes).

    Bont is a different beast all together. Less powerful but more versatile and intelligent. You'd be happy with either, but I'm happier with the Bont. Kelly is the other one who sits comfortably amongst these two.

    You have to laugh at Essendon fans who once believed Merrett was on the same level.
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Yeah, Cripps stands out at Carlton because a) he is obviously a jet, b) he is ****ing massive, and c) he has been surrounded by garbage his entire career. Easy to catch the eye (and Brownlow votes).

    Bont is a different beast all together. Less powerful but more versatile and intelligent. You'd be happy with either, but I'm happier with the Bont. Kelly is the other one who sits comfortably amongst these two.

    You have to laugh at Essendon fans who once believed Merrett was on the same level.
    What do you mean 'once believed'?
    Some still do!

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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I don't mind your thinking but if we took Bont out and replaced him with Gawn, would we be better or worse? I'd say worse.
    Bont is best in the midfield but because our forward line has been weak, we have played him there a lot, as we have a strong midfield to cover him there. Gawn dominates the ruck and can take marks up forward and in defense, he would be a huge upgrade for us in that area. All about the marginal improvement based on your next best option
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Cripps and Bont are different players. One is a churn or transactional player, the other isn't and has to play CHF a lot of the time anyway.

    Play Cripps for Carlton like we play Bont, the latter's output would be better. Play Bont like Carlton play Cripps, I reckon the Bont would be more effective and influence games more.

    But, that's just me having watched him closely, and Cripps not so much.

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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Yeah, Cripps stands out at Carlton because a) he is obviously a jet, b) he is ****ing massive, and c) he has been surrounded by garbage his entire career. Easy to catch the eye (and Brownlow votes).

    Bont is a different beast all together. Less powerful but more versatile and intelligent. You'd be happy with either, but I'm happier with the Bont. Kelly is the other one who sits comfortably amongst these two.

    You have to laugh at Essendon fans who once believed Merrett was on the same level.
    Agree Cripps looks good because he is the only decent mid Carlton have and they can't get the ball.

    The Bont has to contend with guys like Macrae who averages 30 plus a game, Libba, Hunter etc etc who are all ball magnets.
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    I hate this argument. They're both awesome. Just be happy they're both awesome and let people enjoy things.

    Why is the general person's first reaction to anything great to say that it's not as good as something else. No wonder everyone is so miserable.

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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Cripps and Bont are great players and different players.
    I rate them both highly as the best in the competition.
    Bring back the biff

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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    SuperCoach score records aren't the best way of judging a player. That said, Bonts broke his career record last week (156 points). Today he broke that (158 points).

    Fitness, and Libba & Dunks doing heavy lifting is certainly helping him.
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Libba really has made a massive difference he is also in all Australian form too.
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by Topdog View Post
    Fully agree Mofra. It absolutely baffles me that people like Fev dont rate Bont highly.
    He does more with 20 possessions than others do with 30.
    Who cares what an old drunk like Fev thinks? Just because Fevola could play the game at an elite level doesn't mean he can analyze it or even talk a minimal amount of sense about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I wouldn’t trade Bont for any other player in the league but I might be shameless fanboy.

    Is there anyone you’d swap him for?

    No way.

    Quote Originally Posted by boydogs View Post
    Given his age, no

    For the 2019 season, maybe Gawn
    I reckon Tim English will be playing at an elite level long after Max Gawn has hung up the boots. English will be a better player by the end of 2020.
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    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
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    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    I hate this argument. They're both awesome. Just be happy they're both awesome and let people enjoy things.

    Why is the general person's first reaction to anything great to say that it's not as good as something else. No wonder everyone is so miserable.
    Its a competitive game. Ive never rated Martin-he had a good year in 2017 (probably one of the best individual seasons of all time) and dragged Richmond to a flag but its been downhill since then and his best days are now behind him, especially since they have removed his ability to go the Don't Argue. Marcus will win more awards and play in more premierships and rate above Martin on every objective metric by the end of their careers.
    AFLW Premiers 2018

    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.
    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed.
    And I said "Obie, I don't think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. "
    "He said, "Shut up, kid. Get in the back of the patrol car. "


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    Re: Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Who cares what an old drunk like Fev thinks? Just because Fevola could play the game at an elite level doesn't mean he can analyze it or even talk a minimal amount of sense about it.
    He is literally getting paid for his opinion so unfortunately plenty of people care

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