-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
I'd bring in Trengove for Schache but it doesn't sound like Trengove is being considered despite his BOG.
I'd certainly have Dunkley run with Cripps, as much to run Dunkey into form as it worked last year. That puts wallis forward a little more which is where he excelled last year.
Yes Carlton have a giant forwardline but how much defensive pressure do McKay and Casbault actually apply? They kicked it to Gibbons a fair bit anyway. We need to kill the aerial contest then kill them on the rebound. We should have them in the midfield and Philips is no Grundy.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Never said he should replace Cordy, but what I don't like is Cordy being a Key Position Player. He is only 193cm and like Wood is going to struggle against the tall forwards. Yes Young is developing and we need him to step up and get games into him.
Our backline needs someone to play on the gorilla's, because as the game gets longer the bigger guys don't get shorter. I don't rate Cox at all, but in the last quarter as our players started to fatigue, they could no longer jump as high as him.
Is that you Wallsy?
I wonder if we don't have an old fashioned spine because we don't have the personnel or whether it's just not the way the game's really played any more, or rather, the way Bevo prefers to play it.
Agreed Lewy Young can't come on quick enough. I also wonder if the coach is going to give him the same amount of rope as we're evidently giving English this year.
BORDERLINE FLYING
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
Mofra
I'd bring in Trengove for Schache but it doesn't sound like Trengove is being considered despite his BOG.
I'd certainly have Dunkley run with Cripps, as much to run Dunkey into form as it worked last year. That puts wallis forward a little more which is where he excelled last year.
Yes Carlton have a giant forwardline but how much defensive pressure do McKay and Casbault actually apply? They kicked it to Gibbons a fair bit anyway. We need to kill the aerial contest then kill them on the rebound. We should have them in the midfield and Philips is no Grundy.
Lobbe has been their ruckman the last couple of games although it looks likely Kruzer will be back this week. Apparently Kruzer is likely to replace Casboult so it will be very difficult for English if he has to play a lone hand against two mature ruckmen.
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
Mofra
I'd bring in Trengove for Schache but it doesn't sound like Trengove is being considered despite his BOG.
I'd certainly have Dunkley run with Cripps, as much to run Dunkey into form as it worked last year. That puts wallis forward a little more which is where he excelled last year.
Yes Carlton have a giant forwardline but how much defensive pressure do McKay and Casbault actually apply? They kicked it to Gibbons a fair bit anyway. We need to kill the aerial contest then kill them on the rebound. We should have them in the midfield and Philips is no Grundy.
We've all been mystified by selection since 2015 and for the first 2 years we went and won anyway - if Trengove doesn't come in this week, why the hell did we sign him?
Float Along - Fill Your Lungs
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 2 Likes
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
The Pie Man
We've all been mystified by selection since 2015 and for the first 2 years we went and won anyway - if Trengove doesn't come in this week, why the hell did we sign him?
It's strange - every single other mature player we have brought in has been with a specific role in mind.
Trengove is smashing the door down too and English spent a fair chunk of pre-season playing forward as we planned to play two rucks.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
Mofra
It's strange - every single other mature player we have brought in has been with a specific role in mind.
Trengove is smashing the door down too and English spent a fair chunk of pre-season playing forward as we planned to play two rucks.
I reckon Naughton going forward put paid to 2 rucks and as a result Trengove's place in the team.
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
mjp
If Bailey Smith just kicks the goal that was a legit gift from the lord above and the umpires don't incorrectly award Cox a mark when Crozier had 4/5th's of it (and was the man in front) then we wouldn't even be discussing this. Yes, Collingwood had more run in the last quarter...as we came off a short week. Probably should have been expected (and I must admit I discounted it because it was only Round 4, but that was a mistake) and just another of those issues with the fixture that is still the biggest cause of inequality in the game....
Young is more Flanker than key position player at the moment and whilst he has a lot of talent, based on his ball use against the Suns he is not ready for AFL footy.
Possibly that could have been the case, but in the last quarter they beat us in clearances, centre clearances and cont.poss after we were leading at 3qrt time.
I really believe the biggest holes we have at the moment is Ruck and CHB, and I am not sure what we do, other than develop the young guys we have.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Possibly that could have been the case, but in the last quarter they beat us in clearances, centre clearances and cont.poss after we were leading at 3qrt time.
I really believe the biggest holes we have at the moment is Ruck and CHB, and I am not sure what we do, other than develop the young guys we have.
Trengove is a bit of a lumbering type but can't he fill both of these holes?
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Trengove is a bit of a lumbering type but can't he fill both of these holes?
It's weird. Very weird.
The left-field suggestion is we pick up Gardner in the mid-season draft and he gets a chance to impress. The midget backline will work for a while but I'm not convinced it's a long term solution.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 2 Likes
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Trengove is a bit of a lumbering type but can't he fill both of these holes?
When we picked him up, I was hoping he was our answer to the backline.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
When we picked him up, I was hoping he was our answer to the backline.
Same here. I was very excited to get him in the team. He was competitive and a big body to play on the bigger fwds. We look so short when you see the talls of only Cordy named in our back 6.
I will never see #16 the same!!
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Same here. I was very excited to get him in the team. He was competitive and a big body to play on the bigger fwds. We look so short when you see the talls of only Cordy named in our back 6.
Cordy is only 1 cm taller than the Bont
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Cordy is only 1 cm taller than the Bont
Naughton is only 2cm taller than Zaine
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Cordy is only 1 cm taller than the Bont
Jarrad Grant is the same height as Bontempelli. At peak hair, he was 2cm taller and he has signed GAJ GCS merchandise.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
-
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Thanks, 2 Likes
-
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
I don’t understand having English as our only recognised ruckman. Trengove’s best year to date was when he played in the ruck full time. I said it earlier in the year that we can’t throw English to the wolves he was going to need some help. Not just a chop out but a genuine helper. English would also cause headaches in the forward line. He is a great mark and has great foot skills.
I really like like the team that is playing but if blokes are knocking on the door you have to let them in. That’s how you build a super strong culture about winning, everyone knows if you’re a bit off your game then it’s VFL tilll you knock someone else out. This needs to happen to remind everyone that you will get your chance if your playing good football in the VFL.
Outs Gowers. Richards.
Ins Trengove. Williams.
i know Lippa deserves a go but just not sue who else to come out. Would really like to see Young back in but Bevo doesn’t like to change to many at a time
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 2 Likes