AFL Game Day Round 4, 2019 - Collingwood V Western Bulldogs at the MCG

[Murphy'sLore]

So we're gallant again, are we? I used to be happy with that, before 2016.

[bulldogtragic]

So we're gallant again, are we? I used to be happy with that, before 2016.

Feeling very honourable in the loss right now.

[G-Mo77]

So we're gallant again, are we? I used to be happy with that, before 2016.

Yep. Getting respect but not winning. Until we clean up our ball use and find more direct avenues to goal this is all we should expect with the occasional W coming our way.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Disappointing midfield in the last - we were like bees to the honeypot.

I’ve got some concerns over McLean, Dickson, Gowers and Schache - the first 3 aren’t offering enough defensively or offensively. Schache hasn’t touched the footy in two weeks which is made worse by his inability to compete in any way physically.

We’re on the right track but we have some players I’m concerned about and we still turn it over too much. Even our better players like Bont and Macrae turn it over far too often.

[kruder]

So we're gallant again, are we? I used to be happy with that, before 2016.

We just don't look like we believe yet. Agree feels like a classical historical dogs performance.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Forget delivery inside 50, Schache reminds me of Alastair Ford right now, in terms of timidity. Looks like he has all the attributes, but just plays with timidity.
He and Gowers were worst on ground. JJ gets a pass given his long absence.

[AndrewP6]

I hate dropping games on Friday. I hate Collingwood.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Actually disagree. It's not a lack of belief. It's the repeated frustration of giving massive amounts of effort, and getting not only ZERO reward, but the opposition getting a cheap freebie. No matter what the sport, cricket or footy, when you put in maximum effort and it produces nothing, and in fact the opposition get a quick reward off the back of YOUR maximum effort for no gain, it just takes the wind out of your sails.
We believe, or most of them believe...and are giving it everything and more...we just fail to capitalise.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I hate dropping games on Friday. I hate Collingwood.

It's a rarity, but I wholeheartedly agree. There goes my weekend. Thanks goodness my kids don't have any birthday's to celebrate this weekend... I'd be lousy.

[jeemak]

I'm still seething over Dickson not being awarded the in the back early in the last. He was a bit disappointing with his handling tonight, but a fair bit of it was in the middle of the ground in traffic under huge pressure and that's not really his go.

Schache and Gowers were disappointing, but I'm not sure the MC have the apricots to drop both when each should be in trouble. The question is, how did Trengove play tonight? If he is in reasonable touch I think we get him in as our second ruck and give Schache a spell with Gowers out for Greene or Lipinski.

Richards was also disappointing, he's getting it a bit but isn't making good decisions.

The midfield looked a bit tired in the last, and I don't think the five day break really helped us too much. Once again they and others across the ground got too fixated on hunting the footy and that allowed Collingwood to get some outside ball and some clear air to get it moving.

[Sedat]

Disappointing midfield in the last - we were like bees to the honeypot.

I’ve got some concerns over McLean, Dickson, Gowers and Schache - the first 3 aren’t offering enough defensively or offensively. Schache hasn’t touched the footy in two weeks which is made worse by his inability to compete in any way physically.

We’re on the right track but we have some players I’m concerned about and we still turn it over too much. Even our better players like Bont and Macrae turn it over far too often.

Good summary. Very hard to kick a winning score when there are too many passengers in our F50.

If 2019 is a development year, we're not far off it. English in the ruck is a complete liability at the moment but we need to play the long game.

[jeemak]

Good summary. Very hard to kick a winning score when there are too many passengers in our F50.

If 2019 is a development year, we're not far off it. English in the ruck is a complete liability at the moment but we need to play the long game.

I think he needs Trengove as support as his opponent isn't being worn down at all when Schache gets a run in the ruck. If English is still to physically limited, how does replacing him in game with someone even less physical help our cause, particularly if that player isn't touching the football?

[Grantysghost]

Thought we were a bit unlucky with some goal decisions. Naughton touch was over the line, Pies got an 80 metre penalty for a goal and Crozier had a large portion of the Cox mark in the last. That's a three goal swing right there.

[FrediKanoute]

Schache 1 kick, 3 handballs
Gowers 1 kick, 4 handballs

Both should hand back their match payments - not good enough

[FrediKanoute]

Thought we were a bit unlucky with some goal decisions. Naughton touch was over the line, Pies got an 80 metre penalty for a goal and Crozier had a large portion of the Cox mark in the last. That's a three goal swing right there.

The Cox mark was a Cox Mark. Crosier had barely enough. Maybe play on.
The touch over the line begs the question why was Naughton going for the mark? Surely it should have been all about the shepherd in a 2 on 1?