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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    If the sole reason was go home factor - yes
    Some at Brisbane thought his home sickness was close, if not, manifesting in depression. So homesickness was the sole reason with Josh. Pretty harsh to call someone with homesickness related depression a Sooky lala. If Florent could well the same with the death of his father rolled into it. Wanting to play footy close to home to feel better psychiatrically ain't Sooky lala. Should they just stay at the club completely miserable? Should Tom Boyd have seen his contract out, after all footy is a tough game and he knew that. Is he a Sooky lala?

    Even when I don't agree, I see where you are coming from. On this, I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Well don't nominate to play AFL - you could be living in Gold Coast to Freo. Stay home and play VFL, or SANFL etc
    And they have the right to request a trade. The draft isn't a slave auction where humans are bought and owned. A club can refuse, but players can request a trade out for all, any or no real good reason.
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Well don't nominate to play AFL - you could be living in Gold Coast to Freo. Stay home and play VFL, or SANFL etc
    Not sure how you would go about watching previous Open Mike episodes, but the one of the Florent family was very moving. It's not just Oliver you have to think about in these situations (i.e his Mum)

    I remember write ups on the draft at the time were mentioning that there was almost an agreement from interstate clubs not to draft him based on the family situation - that was obviously either false or negotiated out of late.

    Brisbane have done very well recently in managing their list of imports - and word was Bailey Smith made it very clear to interstate clubs he had no interest staying anywhere other than Victoria long term.

    We ask a lot of young men - yeah it's a national comp and they're living their dream, but geez...
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    Times have changed. If a player wants to go "home" clubs look at it compassionately now days. Just got to hope Naughty and Timmy don't feel like that.

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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Some at Brisbane thought his home sickness was close, if not, manifesting in depression. So homesickness was the sole reason with Josh. Pretty harsh to call someone with homesickness related depression a Sooky lala. If Florent could well the same with the death of his father rolled into it. Wanting to play footy close to home to feel better psychiatrically ain't Sooky lala. Should they just stay at the club completely miserable? Should Tom Boyd have seen his contract out, after all footy is a tough game and he knew that. Is he a Sooky lala?

    Even when I don't agree, I see where you are coming from. On this, I have no idea.
    Well I don't know anything about depression, and will not comment on it as I am not qualified.

    I just think majority of players (not with depression), are using it as an excuse to go to the club they want to go to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Well I don't know anything about depression, and will not comment on it as I am not qualified.

    I just think majority of players (not with depression), are using it as an excuse to go to the club they want to go to.
    Maybe some are - I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt to young guys who have had a parent pass away though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Maybe some are - I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt to young guys who have had a parent pass away though.
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Three years ago
    *!*!*!*! that's ice cold.

    This thread is getting real dark, real quick. I might sit it out for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    *!*!*!*! that's ice cold.

    This thread is getting real dark, real quick. I might sit it out for a while.
    We will leave it there then
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    Edit.
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    Edit. Im out.
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    Maybe mods can clean it up and delete all posts so it doesn’t get picked up again.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Maybe mods can clean it up and delete all posts so it doesn’t get picked up again.
    Why?
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    I would certainly welcome Florent. He would be an ideal acquisition but I won't get my hopes up.

    My take is that we clearly want a quick outside mid (or two) to complement our superb inside artillery. We have been linked with Smith, Hill, Martin and now Florent. I'd say we aren't putting all our eggs in one basket. That may be because the costs associated with Smith, Hill and Martin could be more than we are willing to spend or they are committed elsewhere etc. So we widen the search. I expect more names we didn't see coming to be linked with us before too long and possibly in positions we may not expect.
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Well don't nominate to play AFL - you could be living in Gold Coast to Freo. Stay home and play VFL, or SANFL etc
    And players can request a trade. You seem to be jumping on the all homesick trade requests are just money grabs BS that the media sells.

    Quite a few just simply want to go home, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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