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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Canil?

    Tory is a free agent, if he plays elsewhere next year there won't be a trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
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    Ahh right, you are refering to this:

    Where will Tory Dickson play in 2020?
    Dickson is an unrestricted free agent and has had his best year since 2016. There’s plenty of suitors for a sharpshooter and he looks to have a bit more left in the tank. The Bulldogs have been linked to Jack Martin and Alex Keath in recent weeks and only a few players left out of contract, so there’s plenty to play out in this space. - Jourdan Canil
    I think that is pure speculation, no different to what we do on woof. Our list spots are tight, if we bring a couple of players in someone has to fall out.

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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Ahh right, you are refering to this:



    I think that is pure speculation, no different to what we do on woof. Our list spots are tight, if we bring a couple of players in someone has to fall out.
    I agree just adding it to the swirling vortex that is trades talk.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    It's an interesting one, re: Dicko.

    You'd suggest the writing's on the wall but he's quietly trotted out his strongest/most durable season since the flag year, and clearly still best-22 when fit, even with positional twin Lloyd in the mix.

    Still, he might be waiting until our ducks line up for anything concrete from us. Do the dirty Bombres finally get their man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    It's an interesting one, re: Dicko.

    You'd suggest the writing's on the wall but he's quietly trotted out his strongest/most durable season since the flag year, and clearly still best-22 when fit, even with positional twin Lloyd in the mix.

    Still, he might be waiting until our ducks line up for anything concrete from us. Do the dirty Bombres finally get their man?
    Hard to imagine they would have any interest with AMT, Fantasia and Stringer already on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Joe View Post
    Hard to imagine they would have any interest with AMT, Fantasia and Stringer already on the list.
    Dicko plays a bit different to the first two though, they're out and out crumbers.
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    From the Advertiser so a bit of Crows bias but still shows how good Keath could be for us.

    With St Kilda and the Bulldogs circling, what is Adelaide defender Alex Keath worth at the trade table?

    Statistically, Alex Keath was one of the best key-defenders in the AFL this year and his numbers stack up against Jake Lever’s 2017 season. What could the Crows expect in return this time around?

    If out-of-contract Adelaide defender Alex Keath decides to continue his career interstate, what he’s worth at the trade table?

    The 27-year-old, who is seeking a longer-term deal at West Lakes, toured St Kilda’s Moorabbin facilities on Monday and has no shortage of suitors in Victoria with the Bulldogs also reportedly keen on the former first-class cricketer.

    After playing just 12 games in his first two years on the list, Keath made his mark at the Crows in 2019, taking on the intercepting role after Tom Doedee’s season-ending knee injury in Round 1.

    Keath didn’t just fill in, either, he starred.

    Of all key-defenders, the 197cm Keath, who won a Showdown medal in his 20th career game, ranks first for contested possessions (7), fourth for intercept possessions (8.3) and fifth for disposals (16.3), rating elite in all three categories.

    On average, only Jeremy McGovern, Dane Rampe, Phil Davis, Sam Frost and Aliir Aliir won more possession from an opposition disposal than Keath in 2019.

    And, despite missing four matches with a leg injury, Keath’s 49 intercept marks was nine more than any Crow.

    His ability to read the play, leave his man and dominate in the air is obvious but Keath also proved he is a terrific one-on-one defender.

    Of the top-25 players in the competition for total defensive one-on-ones contested, Keath’s loss percentage of 22.4 is the 10th-best.

    In the first 17 matches of the year, Adelaide conceded 9.9 marks inside-50 per game — the fourth-best number in the competition.

    But with Keath missing between Rounds 19-22, the opposition took full advantage, with Carlton (16), St Kilda (9), West Coast (14) and Collingwood (19) recording 58 between them in four weeks

    And his 2019 numbers stack up against former Crow Jake Lever in his last year at West Lakes.



    At the end of the 2017 season, following the grand final loss to the Tigers, Lever, who wanted to return home, was traded to Melbourne in exchange for pick No. 10 and the Demon’s first selection in 2018.

    Lever was a 21-year-old, with 56 games to his name, not yet in the prime of his career.

    While in a football sense, Keath is young, he will 28 by the start of the 2020 season so it’s unrealistic for Adelaide to expect that sort of return from any club this time around.

    But Keath’s best football might still be ahead of him and his from this year, arguably, warrants a first-round draft selection.


    *Top-10 lowest loss-percentage of the top-25 for total defensive one-on-ones

    Former Gold Coast co-captain and key-defender Steven May, who was born 10 days before Keath, was traded to the Demons last off-season, along with talented, yet injury-plagued midfielder, Kade Kolodjashnij for pick No. 6.

    The Bulldogs also cashed in Marcus Adams, whose career has been interrupted by injury, in 2018, trading the 26-year-old to the Lions for pick No. 32 and a 2019 third-round selection.

    Is Keath’s market-value somewhere in between, especially given he’s out-of-contract?

    As the draft order stands, St Kilda hold pick No. 5 but don’t have another selection until the fourth-round (55).

    But with the likes of Jack Steven and Jack Carlisle being thrown around in trade discussion, the Saints’ draft hand may change by November.

    The Bulldogs, however, currently hold picks 12, 30 and 41.

    While pick No. 5 is too much, would Luke Beveridge and his list-management group give up its first-round selection for Keath to sure-up its premiership-challenging list, allowing emerging star Aaron Naughton to stay forward in the process?

    Pick No. 12 for a former Category B rookie, who was playing was playing district cricket in Adelaide four years ago sounds like good business for the Crows, especially with Tom Doedee set to return next year.

    However, it would bring the player-retention issue to the fore, again, and be a hard pill to swallow for an already-disgruntled supporter base.

    And, of course, be a hit to the club’s immediate future given his importance to the back-six.

    But there’s no doubt another top draft pick will help fast-track a much-needed list rejuvenation.

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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    There is no freaking way they're getting their hands on pick 12 for Keath.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    They were right. Keath is worth around Marcus Adams, late to the afl system, some good signs but not elite. Our pick 30-ish. If you won’t give him the contract we will, and he is contracted, that makes it hard to get much better than mid 2nd round I’d have thought.

    If we offered say around $500,000, 4 years, he gets the likelihood of playing every week in an emerging side, good money, job security. That’s a good spot to be in for him. Good for us too.
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    There is no freaking way they're getting their hands on pick 12 for Keath.
    Well it may not be pick 12 for long anyway

    As it stands anyway we have 12, 30, 41, 46 & 48
    Crows have 3, 21, 26, then nothing
    Gold Coast have 1, 17 then 52

    I'd imagine we've been planning already to swap the picks required to get Keath, Martin and Bruce.
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    So Tex has stood down as captain of the crows, I wonder if he will even be there next year.
    Not really sure anyone would want him, maybe GC ?
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Some reports saying Pies keen on Bruce.

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    And we haven't even played a freakin final yet.
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Some reports saying Pies keen on Bruce.
    And they should be. He should have a few suitors
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Add another to the list - first time I have seen us linked to Sam Gray!

    Talented mid to stay with Port after exploring options, Gray may move

    PORT Adelaide has landed an off-season victory by securing the signature of talented midfielder Karl Amon for the next three seasons.

    After exploring interest from Victorian clubs including Melbourne and St Kilda in recent days, Amon has recommitted to the Power until the end of 2022.

    Just 12 months after attempting - and failing - to break a contract and return to Victoria, the 24-year-old received significant interest from his home state this time around after a career-best season.

    Amon has found himself settled in South Australia this season and played a career-high 17 matches, averaging 20 disposals.

    His decision to stay comes as teammate Sam Gray explores his options over the next fortnight after recovering from minor shoulder surgery.

    Gray, who kicked 20 goals from as many matches this year, has received interest from multiple clubs including Carlton and Western Bulldogs (who are both seeking a small forward).

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