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  1. #1846
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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Carlton have apparently cooled on Dan Butler - we should be all over that
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pie Man View Post
    Carlton have apparently cooled on Dan Butler - we should be all over that
    I think he still has a couple of clubs interested including StKilda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Assuming our 2nd pick -> Keath.

    Can we cobble together a sub #26 pick for Bruce out of our 3rd rounders?

    There will be at least three difficult trades: Daniher, Fantasia and Martin.

    Blues will blow their first rounder on Papley and IIRC they don't have a 2019 second rounder?

    If Silvagni ***** it up and Suns want a symbolic first rounder for Martin, would you do our Pick 13 for Martin and the Suns beginning of second round compo pick?

    Then send that compo pick to Port for Howard and steak knives?
    If the swans mess up the Martin deal - would you still take him - at the original offer 700k a year for 5? Or would it be reasonable to suggest we’ve reorganised after he turned us down and a new deal is in the table?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshMac View Post
    If the swans mess up the Martin deal - would you still take him - at the original offer 700k a year for 5? Or would it be reasonable to suggest we’ve reorganised after he turned us down and a new deal is in the table?
    New deal. We have offered a really attractive deal and if he is umming and arring about it then he aint the player we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    New deal. We have offered a really attractive deal and if he is umming and arring about it then he aint the player we want.
    My thoughts exactly. If he can’t land at the blues I’d be delighted to have him minus the “high potential moving bonus”

    Be nice to put a stake in the ground.

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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Has it been reported what the extent of Keath's ankle injury is? Sounds like he is having it operated as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pie Man View Post
    Carlton have apparently cooled on Dan Butler - we should be all over that
    We just cant afford to add another depth player. If the player isn't clearly best 22 i wouldn't be having a crack at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kruder View Post
    Has it been reported what the extent of Keath's ankle injury is? Sounds like he is having it operated as we speak.
    Small stress fracture below the shin, above the ankle. Crows didn’t want to operate we have chosen to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Small stress fracture below the shin, above the ankle. Crows didn’t want to operate we have chosen to.

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    Keath injury puts twist on trade

    Adelaide were compelled to operate on defender Alex Keath to repair a stress fracture in his leg in order for his trade to the Western Bulldogs to go through.

    Keath will start his Bulldogs career on the injury list, after medical examinations by two different clubs revealed an injury which they believed required surgery.

    Adelaide were aware of the injury but believed it didn’t require surgical intervention and instead were planning to manage it differently if Keath stayed at the Crows.

    Keath has since had recent surgery and will be unable to train for at least three months.

    Despite both the Bulldogs and St Kilda finding a crack in his lower shin, Keath, who was just about to take off on an overseas holiday, had been given a training program by Adelaide that included running.

    That holiday has now been cancelled and Keath won’t be able to begin pre-season training until late January at the earliest.

    Adelaide were aware of the issue during the season, where a scan prior to the round 18 clash with Essendon identified a stress fracture.

    He played one more game for Adelaide, ironically against the Western Bulldogs in round 23. He failed to play that game out after limping off with an unrelated knee injury.
    He was then scanned again after the season and the Crows began a conservative approach to rehabilitating the injury after his shin showed signs of improvement.

    But both St Kilda and the Bulldogs have confirmed to The Age that their medical teams believed Keath required immediate surgery.

    Once the Bulldogs identified the fracture last month, they advised Keath that he would need to have a pin put in his lower leg to justify their contract offer to him.

    Keith and his management then returned to Adelaide, where they advised the Crows who, against their own judgment, decided to go ahead with the surgery.

    Keith is a contracted Adelaide player until the end of October, meaning all costs associated with his surgery and subsequent treatment will be paid for by his current club.

    The revelation has diluted his trade value in the eyes of the Bulldogs, who will now try to attain his services in exchange for something in the realm a third round pick.

    Keath’s injury was being managed by well renowned fitness guru Steve Saunders, who joined the Crows high performance team on a full time basis this year, having previously operated as a consultant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Keath injury puts twist on trade

    Adelaide were compelled to operate on defender Alex Keath to repair a stress fracture in his leg in order for his trade to the Western Bulldogs to go through.

    Keath will start his Bulldogs career on the injury list, after medical examinations by two different clubs revealed an injury which they believed required surgery.

    Adelaide were aware of the injury but believed it didn’t require surgical intervention and instead were planning to manage it differently if Keath stayed at the Crows.

    Keath has since had recent surgery and will be unable to train for at least three months.

    Despite both the Bulldogs and St Kilda finding a crack in his lower shin, Keath, who was just about to take off on an overseas holiday, had been given a training program by Adelaide that included running.

    That holiday has now been cancelled and Keath won’t be able to begin pre-season training until late January at the earliest.

    Adelaide were aware of the issue during the season, where a scan prior to the round 18 clash with Essendon identified a stress fracture.

    He played one more game for Adelaide, ironically against the Western Bulldogs in round 23. He failed to play that game out after limping off with an unrelated knee injury.
    He was then scanned again after the season and the Crows began a conservative approach to rehabilitating the injury after his shin showed signs of improvement.

    But both St Kilda and the Bulldogs have confirmed to The Age that their medical teams believed Keath required immediate surgery.

    Once the Bulldogs identified the fracture last month, they advised Keath that he would need to have a pin put in his lower leg to justify their contract offer to him.

    Keith and his management then returned to Adelaide, where they advised the Crows who, against their own judgment, decided to go ahead with the surgery.

    Keith is a contracted Adelaide player until the end of October, meaning all costs associated with his surgery and subsequent treatment will be paid for by his current club.

    The revelation has diluted his trade value in the eyes of the Bulldogs, who will now try to attain his services in exchange for something in the realm a third round pick.

    Keath’s injury was being managed by well renowned fitness guru Steve Saunders, who joined the Crows high performance team on a full time basis this year, having previously operated as a consultant.
    Not surprised he wants out... what a s***show the crows are right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Keath injury puts twist on trade

    Adelaide were compelled to operate on defender Alex Keath to repair a stress fracture in his leg in order for his trade to the Western Bulldogs to go through.

    Keath will start his Bulldogs career on the injury list, after medical examinations by two different clubs revealed an injury which they believed required surgery.
    My wish to get Howard is looking even more wiser.

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    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Just take your third rounder Adelaide and let's all move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Just take your third rounder Adelaide and let's all move on.
    Seems much more reasonable now. Amazing pick 13 was ever being thrown around in the media

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Bottom of the article interesting too

    Adelaide had initially attempted to acquire the Bulldogs first pick – currently 13 – by giving them Keath and one of their second round picks (currently 23 and 28).

    That was rejected by the Dogs.

    The Crows had hoped to leverage the Bulldogs’ desire to sign Saints forward Josh Bruce, hence offering them Keath and a second round pick, which the Dogs could give to the Saints for Bruce.

    But sources at the Bulldogs told The Age that their prized first pick was not for sale at any price, adamant it will be turned into a Dogs player in the national draft.
    Possibly posturing of course but consistent with how we normally operate

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshMac View Post
    Not surprised he wants out... what a s***show the crows are right now.
    In terms of player welfare thats terrible. 3 months of recovery !

    You would hope that player health would be THE Highest priority for any club

    I’m not surprised on the exodus
    Clubs should pry their list after this info, they shown their cards and attitude .
    Offer them a 4th rounder( no disrespect on his talent ) or they wont have Keith for most of next year. Why would you want to play for them when their medical staff don’t act in your interest ?
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