Proactive Poaching

[Remi Moses]

The age on Smith is a no from me .
Martin’s got great tools to be a star , but he’s been disappointing so far

[Twodogs]

I'm not that worried about Smith's age, that's 31 at the end of next year-my only slight concern that he may be subject to old man soft tissue injuries like St Kilda got sucked in with Hannaberry-but he looks and plays like a young man still.

Martin would be huge for us. He has all the tools we need, pace, class, footy nous and surgical footskills.

[1eyedog]

No and no my god what a waste of cash and picks! Smith will be nearly 32 and past his best and Martin is inconsistent and lazy. Please don't let this be true!

[Grantysghost]

Sorry the only reason why I'm not keen on Smith is his age. He turns 31 next year, but yes he's a gun.

Very good point I didn't realise thought he was the other side of 30. Martin it is

[Doc26]

A yes for me with Jack Martin if he’s open to coming to us and we weren’t forced to pay overs.
Genuine elite talent who could prosper under our developing leaders.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I'm not averse to either Smith or Martin at the right price.
I'm just not convinced Martin would be on the table for a fair price, and a fair price would not be our 1st pick in 2019. Not for his output to date.

[chef]

No for Smith from me, we are miles off a premiership window so all hes doing is stealing a kids spot for a season or two.

Martin fills a need and is in the right age group.

[bulldogtragic]

If Smith was pick 50-70 like Lewis & Mitchell, and it’s really just salary. Then I’m in.

Martin seems flashy, but doesn’t score a lot (4.10 this year, 10 games). I’d like some more goal scoring power.

[bulldogtragic]

With the Tomlinson media comments last week. We’d be allegedly hoping for Tomlinson (KPD), Smith (Wing), Martin (mid).

Tommo is a FA. Smith must be a late pick like Lewis & Mitchell. Martin isn’t worth Pick 5, so maybe a downgrade & 2nd rounder. So we’d have a strong draft presence too.

That would pretty much use our cap and cap bank.

[bornadog]

Do we really need another Left foot Hawk has been.

On a serious note, we don't need a player like Smith, however we can use some outside pace like Martin.

[Ozza]

Like the thought of getting Martin. Heads into what is likely his best years.
Isaac Smith is a very good footballer - his age means that we have to be careful about what the cost is.

Both players cover the ground well and add some polish - if we think we aren't that far from contending again.

[Sedat]

If Smith was pick 50-70 like Lewis & Mitchell, and it’s really just salary. Then I’m in.

Same. Also the Hawks owe us a friendly trade for Smith as payback for us giving them a 31yo future Norm Smith medalist and a triple premiership player for bugger-all in a trade.

[boydogs]

I wouldn't call Martin soft but there's not much of him, he struggles with the physical side of the game

[macca]

With the emergence of himmelberg and Darcy forgerty in the wings , Lynch in fwd 50 and greenwood and O’Brien chop out , Josh Jenkins days are numbered .he be at best insurance cover for these guys by 2022. Can’t ruck, does he play 100% of game time like ben brown ?
I be throwing kitchen sink at Ben brown or Peter Wright . We need a Rory Lobb type which means 800k a year

[Mantis]

Sorry the only reason why I'm not keen on Smith is his age. He turns 31 next year, but yes he's a gun.

He's a pass given he's probably only got 2-3 years left.

Bevo certainly loves he's left footed Hawthorn player doesn't he!