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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Frivolous question but how long is that running track? 1km?
    It seems like a 'knee friendly' surface so I imagine that alone would get people to the precinct, a running session followed by lunch at Barkers.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Part of what will fund this plan is the use of the parcel of land gifted to the club near the railway. You can see from the sketches some new apartments.

    That's the exact business model of the new a-league franchise Western United. Granted land by Wyndham which they'll develop as housing / commercial and use profits to build new stadium at Tarneit or pay off debt secured by future sales .

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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by angelopetraglia View Post
    There is always entrepreneurial risk. You could also argue that there is even more risk if we do nothing and fall behind all the other clubs.

    World Class facilities that are open to the community is something that the Government should invest in. This is a shared resource, that includes facilities that everyone will use (e.g. Running Track). The Bulldogs have been an essential part of the community for 100+ years. The brand, the respect and reach to influence the community the via the Community Foundation should not be understated. We can have a significant positive influence on the community. The Western Bulldogs are more than just a professional sports team. This isn't the USA model where the success of the club ultimately benefits some random billionaire.
    Agree on the first point, Iím ok with the risk, I just hope theyíve done the homework properly.

    I also get the 2nd point, but Iím often sceptical of the ďcommunity benefitsĒ angle used to justify the government funding aspect. Itís always brought out as a justification. Iím just not sure that the community benefits are often commensurate with the financial outlay. Iím all for community facilities, just not sure that this is how governments should fund them. Anyway, that is a personal viewpoint. Clubs will do what they gotta do. I also agree that we have set up some great community programs within the Western suburbs.
    Yay Bulldogs.

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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Looks like it's game on for which ground is going to be the home of women's footy. Carlton had a ping at sneaking past us with their weatherbeaten old craphole of a stadium but hopefully this gets us the chocolates.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.
    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed.
    And I said "Obie, I don't think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. "
    "He said, "Shut up, kid. Get in the back of the patrol car. "


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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    I hope thereís a VERY solid business plan behind this. Itís the type of project that could be the making of the club, but could also be a long term disaster. Iím also not in love with the club constantly going to government for funding (to whatever extent) but thatís more of an issue with taxpayers money going into professional sports teams.
    But it isn't going to a sporting team per se. The Whitten Oval is a community facility that belongs to and is for the use of the people of the western suburbs. It just so happens that most of us who live around here are massive bulldog supporters and are happy to see the club get a benefit as well as the rest of us.


    I hope you are right about the business plan though. This could easily go tits up without a project manager. who knows what they are doing and shares the vision.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.
    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed.
    And I said "Obie, I don't think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. "
    "He said, "Shut up, kid. Get in the back of the patrol car. "


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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    But it isn't going to a sporting team per se. The Whitten Oval is a community facility that belongs to and is for the use of the people of the western suburbs. It just so happens that most of us who live around here are massive bulldog supporters and are happy to see the club get a benefit as well as the rest of us.


    I hope you are right about the business plan though. This could easily go tits up without a project manager. who knows what they are doing and shares the vision.
    Honest question because I don’t know, but what aspects of the facility currently are community based and available for use? (sorry if I’m taking the thread too far off topic, happy to leave it alone)

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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    I’m very excited by this news. Hopefully it’s gets all approved. Would be more easier for our northern/south/east suburbs supporters to go to as well with it being only 5km our from the city and West Footscray station on the doorstep. Much closer than Ballarat for a lot of us.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    Honest question because I donít know, but what aspects of the facility currently are community based and available for use? (sorry if Iím taking the thread too far off topic, happy to leave it alone)
    There is a large building to the right of the John Gent stand which is used by the community for multiple different types of sports.

    Victoria University Community Sports Stadium (external link) is the largest multi-sport stadium in the inner west.

    Our four court, state-of-the-art facility includes:


    first class flooring
    international standard lighting
    courts lined for basketball, futsal, netball, volleyball and badminton
    onsite parking.
    The stadium is part of the partnership between VU and Western Bulldogs.
    Not sure how it gets incorporated into the new plan.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Sounds good, but I'll get excited once there's actually serious, serious money behind it. It's a good drawing though and I hope it comes off. The car park idea is a very good one, would've been nice to see it in there somewhere.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Just remember it’s not owned by the club it’s a public park owned by the council, the only way it can get upgraded Is by government money.
    First thing I thought was where is the car park ? You need a 20,000 people ground you need some sort of parking , that’s why princess park will always have it over us.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    Just remember it’s not owned by the club it’s a public park owned by the council, the only way it can get upgraded Is by government money.
    First thing I thought was where is the car park ? You need a 20,000 people ground you need some sort of parking , that’s why princess park will always have it over us.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    The dream of getting AFL back at Whitten Oval is back but I don’t want to get to ahead of myself just yet.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    Honest question because I don’t know, but what aspects of the facility currently are community based and available for use? (sorry if I’m taking the thread too far off topic, happy to leave it alone)
    The community get access to an indoor sports centre down at the cross st end and a creche in the car park. You are quite right to suspect that the club benefits more than anyone from the investment but that's pretty much how we want it. Before the last redevelopment they weren't even supposed to put up a fence around the ground but the moment the VFL team came into existence all those rules changed.
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    After speaking to Obie for about fourty-five minutes on the telephone we
    Finally arrived at the truth of the matter and said that we had to go down
    And pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the
    Police officer's station. So we got in the red vw microbus with the
    Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed on toward the
    Police officer's station.
    Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at
    The police station, and the first was he could have given us a medal for
    Being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and
    We didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out
    And told us never to be seen driving garbage around the vicinity again,
    Which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station
    There was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was
    Both immediately arrested. Handcuffed.
    And I said "Obie, I don't think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on. "
    "He said, "Shut up, kid. Get in the back of the patrol car. "


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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    I hope thereís a VERY solid business plan behind this. Itís the type of project that could be the making of the club, but could also be a long term disaster. Iím also not in love with the club constantly going to government for funding (to whatever extent) but thatís more of an issue with taxpayers money going into professional sports teams.
    The taxpayer has contributed well over $100m (in 5 separate stages no less) to fund that shithole tinshed down the highway, for no good reason other than it is located in the marginal electorate of Coragamite. With that in mind, I'm quite OK with our club lobbying for a much smaller portion of the govt purse for the redevelopment of the Kennel.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs hope to play AFL matches at Whitten Oval under $150m redevelopment plan

    “It will also involve a slightly re-oriented playing surface ..."
    Hmm, maybe this would help our current predicament of players kicking points instead of goals.

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