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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I would prefer he didn't average over 27 disposals because then it hopefully means someone who uses it with more care has had plenty of it.

    The last 2 weeks, Hunter hasn't been our leading possession winner and we've played more free flowing, attractive football. I don't think it's a coincidence.
    It's a bit like when later in his career Daniel Cross used to get so much of the football but because of his unwillingness to kick forward quickly if he couldn't get an immediate handball to a running team mate we'd stagnate, eventually going sideways. Sure his effective disposal percentage was always right up there, but it's the disposals he didn't take that concerned me.

    Hunter is so one sided that too much football in his hands in transition can actually stifle us sometimes. I much prefer him getting the football with a clear path in front of him rather than him finding the football with his back towards goal, because the latter situation limits us unless he has plenty of running support and is disciplined enough to give it off by hand.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    A few on here would omit Lachie Hunter, ffs !

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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by westbulldog View Post
    A few on here would omit Lachie Hunter, ffs !
    Is anyone really that ignorant of his clear positive attributes, or are you being a bit dramatic or sensitive about some pointing out and being frustrated by his negative ones?

    He's an excellent player but he does my bloody head in because he could be more reliable and damaging with some discipline and attention to detail in his game. I honestly don't think he gets the best out of himself sometimes and it's between the ears when he doesn't, meaning he can actually be better just by concentrating for longer more often.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by westbulldog View Post
    A few on here would omit Lachie Hunter, ffs !
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    Dropping a player isn't always a bad thing, so long as it's explained why he's been dropped and what he has to work on. I'm not on the drop Hunter bandwagon but if dropping him makes him a better player then I'm all for it.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    No one has suggested dropping Hunter.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Is anyone really that ignorant of his clear positive attributes, or are you being a bit dramatic or sensitive about some pointing out and being frustrated by his negative ones?

    He's an excellent player but he does my bloody head in because he could be more reliable and damaging with some discipline and attention to detail in his game. I honestly don't think he gets the best out of himself sometimes and it's between the ears when he doesn't, meaning he can actually be better just by concentrating for longer more often.
    I thought Hunter was our best player in the first half. He hit targets which was a change from a couple of weeks ago.

    Was he playing through injury? So many of his kicks dropped short which can be a sign.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    I thought Hunter was our best player in the first half. He hit targets which was a change from a couple of weeks ago.

    Was he playing through injury? So many of his kicks dropped short which can be a sign.
    Hunter frustrates me from time to time but yesterday wasn't one of those days.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Hunter frustrates me from time to time but yesterday wasn't one of those days.
    Yes you have to judge a player from game to game. Not what he has done previously or not because of one particular instance. This is for any player. Yesterday Lachie had a very good game.

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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    He's good, but he butchers the ball too often trying to do things his ability doesn't allow for. His ridiculous worm burner yesterday that led to a Brisbane goal is a perfect example.
    The positive out of that was that Toby McLean really got stuck into Hunter for that error. I love it when the players "hurt" as much as we do. They're invested and that's good.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Trengrove could reasonably claim he should have been brought in earlier. That hardness will be a great asset in Geelong.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
    Trengrove could reasonably claim he should have been brought in earlier. That hardness will be a great asset in Geelong.
    The Brisbane bench was not happy with Trengrove's ruck work. I could hear them complaining he wrestles too much in the ruck.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    The Brisbane becn was not happy with Trengrove's ruck work. I could hear them complaining he wrestles too much in the ruck.
    He does.. he makes body contact very early in ruck contests as he doesn't have much of a leap.

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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    1. Naughton can will his way into a game. His second half was brilliant. Right up until the half time siren he had 2 disposals. To finish the day with 3 goals and 16 disposals was testament to his resilience and perseverance. A gun for sure.

    2. La. Young can play. I'm always amazed when a young player gets drafted, (doesn't matter whether they're the number 1 pick or a rookie) and forces their way into the senior line up in their first year, and then holds their spot. He has great closing speed and never seems to panic. Always seems to get there in time for a spoil or tackle or smother and uses the ball well when he gets it. We have half back flankers coming out of our &%$#holes, the fact that he's holding that spot down is pretty impressive.

    3. Wet weather football actually works pretty well in wet weather.

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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    He does.. he makes body contact very early in ruck contests as he doesn't have much of a leap.
    His leap is actually OK its just that he so undersized that he needs to use his head.
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    Re: Three things I have learned. Round 8-Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions Mars Stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by westbulldog View Post
    A few on here would omit Lachie Hunter, ffs !
    I said I'd like to try someone like Lipinski in his role as he's a better kick - that may have sounded like I'd drop him....I wouldn't.

    And to be fair to Lachie, he's been better the past 2 games - stuck an important tackle in the 3rd quarter against Richmond that led to a goal and his pass to Naughton to end the 2nd quarter on Saturday was very important to cap off some momentum.
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